Guys, forgive me for just piling up the to do list ... Revueltas is great, there´s also much more than Sensemaya to listen to, but make sure to check out some other lesser known like Charles Koechlin (look for The Jungle Book and the Horn Concerto), Franz Schreker (using an extensive array of ´spiels in a soaring late romantic language) and of course the forgotten Alexander Zemlinsky, Korngold´s teacher and Berg´s early inspiration (Lyric Symphony in 7 movements).
Koechlin was such a movie addict that he composed for flicks that never existed. Talking about passion.
This is all highly individual sound setting in an orchestral context, apart from a set of dazzling harmonic progressions.
And speaking of that, don´t miss R. Strauss´ Four Last Songs, especially the first one with its dazzling in and out modulation.
Inspiring ...
Andreas
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By the way, I also came across a link to Marco Beltrami'swebsite, and he also gives free pdf files to some of his orchestrations, with also mp3's to these also.
The link is:
http://www.marcobeltrami.com/wocms.php?siteID=7&lngID=1
Steve.
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Yes, a very spectacular piece besides Sensemaya by Revueltas is actually a film score "Night of the Mayas." I agree on the Strauss Four Last Songs - that is an amazing orchestration and beautiful piece, and in fact, as it was composed late iin Strauss's life, it seems to be far less pretentious than some of his earlier huge orchestrations like Alpensinfonie, as if he was not trying to prove anything or outdo anyone anymore. Somewhat similar to Mahler in the 9th symphony writing (almost) in a "chamber" style instead of his usual gigantic forces. Though the orchestration is actually fairly large, it is not used in a massive way.
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Wow! That's all I can say!
Any way you can pitch this to the music producer of Star Trek 11 and quite possibly get this on as the main title for the movie?
Or,better yet, work up an entirely new theme, pre '60's version, on how Alexander Courage MIGHT have approached it, if HE had been asked to do the new main title.
At any rate,it's examples like this that go a long ways towards shutting up those people who insist that only a "real" orchestra is best and couldn't tell the difference between Giga and the LSO if you held a gun to their head. I get soooo tired of these "elitests" because they flat-out assume that every composer has an orchestra at their disposal,which certainly isn't true.
Myself,I think it takes a fair amount of skill to pass a virtual orchestra as real. It's kind of like visual effects if you think about it.
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@skyy38 said:
At any rate,it's examples like this that go a long ways towards shutting up those people who insist that only a "real" orchestra is best and couldn't tell the difference between Giga and the LSO if you held a gun to their head.
I get soooo tired of these "elitests" because they flat-out assume that every composer has an orchestra at their disposal, which certainly isn't true.
... the inflatable ones are even better then the sampled ones
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@William said:
Angelo has made the single most important statement yet on this thread. I have always hated flat-out elitists. I always strive to be a fully inflated elitist.
.... also, Mike has to find someone who accepts the challenge to write a scenario for this fabulous music
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I knew, when I did the original version of this theme, that it was likely not going to be appropriate in flavor for the "hip, young" Star Trek that JJ Abrams was planning, but it was for fun, and it was my favorite style.
Well yesterday I saw 15 minutes of the new Star Trek, and yeah, it's basically like Fast and the Furious. So last night I did another version: The Hollywood Hack version. Hans Zimmer, watch out. I don't expect you to like it anymore than I do, but I had to get it out of my system.
[url="http://www.mikeverta.com/Posts/Star_Trek_v2.mp3"]Star Trek Theme v2 - The Hollywood Hack Edition[/url]
_Mike
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Hi Mike. Hope you feel the better now it's out of your system. Yip, it is a bit heavy going with the drums. Hope you used your headphones when you recorded it - got to think about the neighbours! On the subject of HZ, I just noticed his and JNHs' score for The Dark Knight has been disqualified from being considered for the Youknowwhats as a result of them not having composed enough of the music. I would have thought that this would have been picked up by now by the large anti-Zimmer lobby using these forums! Hats off to your writing, arranging, orchestration and production skills- can I borrow some of them next time you're on holiday?...Colin.