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  • Hi

    I too would like to know what the difference is between the power panning plugin and what is already available with Vienna Ensemble?

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    @Simsy said:

    I too would like to know what the difference is between the power panning plugin and what is already available with Vienna Ensemble?

    If you go to the GUI screenshots of the Vienna Suite plugs, you'll  see all the parameters of the Power Pan tool. (scrolling down to Power Pan)

    http://vsl.co.at/en/211/496/945/1456/1460/1073.htm 

    The parameters which are  available in the Vienna Ensemble Power Panner are more or less "Center" and  "Width".

    Further it's possible in the Vienna Suite plugs to make numerical input and saving your personal presets within each plug.

    best

    Herb


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    @joybeanstudios said:

    I see the free Jazz drums when you buy the VS, but are the drums available for purchase now without the suite? I clicked around and couldn't find a way to do that. Excited about them... thanks!

    The Jazz Drums are an exclusive goody for the Vienna Suite and can't be purchased seperarely.

    best

    Herb


  • Looking at the interfaces for these, they certainly do look beautifully designed - congrats, VSL!

    J.

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    @herb said:

    The Jazz Drums are an exclusive goody for the Vienna Suite and can't be purchased seperarely.

     

    Hmmmmm. I'm tempted to get the Plugin Suite just for the Jazz Drums! [*-)]

    I would definitely like the Power Pan for use in Logic. I wonder if the other plugs are better than Logic's built-in ones - I suppose I'll wait for the demo. 


  • Wow, this looks exciting, and it's totally unexpected at my end.

    Having a transparent EQ that can be used outside of Digital Performer is almost worth the price of admission alone. I have literally evaluated every native EQ out there, and nothing compares to the transparency of MOTU MasterWorks EQ, except for the Sonnox EQ that it emulates.

    IK Multimedia has a VERY short-term advance pricing for pre-orders on the brand-new TracKS 3. No audio demos for that product AFAIK. It sure would be nice to be able to compare these products before the 12 November deadline! 


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    The Jazz Drums are an exclusive goody for the Vienna Suite and can't be purchased seperarely.

    Herb]

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    Get Vienna Suite through January 15, 2009, and download Jazz Drums for free!

    Jazz Drums is a time limited offer, it won’t be available commercially after January 15, 2009! ]

    All this means that after January 15 you will have to pay more for the Vienna suite+Jazz Drums?

    Sergino


  •  Herb,

    Can one user have it loaded on a slave computer with VE3 (in this case it would be Vista64) for insertion directly within VE3 and still have a copy to use on my master DAW (Mac)?

    Is it licensed on Syncrosoft?

    Thanks,

    Jack 


  • This is impressive - another innovation from a great company. 


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    @Another User said:

    it won’t be available commercially after January 15, 2009
     

    I interpret that as Jazz Drums won't be available at all after January 15 2009.

    I do presume, though, that they will not merely be discarded, but will show up in some larger package at a later date; this could be wishful thinking on my part, however. 


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    @Jack Weaver said:

    Can one user have it loaded on a slave computer with VE3 (in this case it would be Vista64) for insertion directly within VE3 and still have a copy to use on my master DAW (Mac)?

    Is it licensed on Syncrosoft?

    It's licensed with syncrosoft, and you'll get 3 codes (like VE3)

    best
    herb


  • Any chance the plugins will be offered individually? I am thinking mainly of the Power Panner here. Dave Hage

  • Hmmmmm I have to admit I am a bit perplexed by this announcement. I do think the PowerPanner looks truly innovative, especially if the pre-sets are pre-configured for each section of the orchestra. BUT ... apart from the PowerPanner, I don't understand why a) people think a bunch of plug-in EQs and Compressors is innovative, and b) why VSL are spending development time on these. Back in the spring I did make a post requesting that PowerPanner from VE was incorporated in VI, but the answer was to use the capabilities of Cubase or buy Waves S1. Perhaps the answers are; - VSL are developing these as component parts of MIR anyway, and since they are ready to can be released as a separate package to create a new revenue stream. - Maybe they are optimised for the VSL samples. I would be very interested in buying the PowerPanner separately, but the overall package looks expensive to me. Sorry not to be a bit more positive. I am a big customer of VSL, (having spent thousands of pounds over the years) to acquire various horizon packages , the full cube, chamber II, appassionata II and several downloads ... so I'm not a tight fisted individual, so I don't feel I am being impertinent to question this release. (Looking forward to a big band library ;) What makese these EQs and compressors special?

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    @drew buchan said:

    What makese these EQs and compressors special?

    64bit?

    DG


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    @drew buchan said:

    why VSL are spending development time on these
     

    I think they're giving Dietz something to do other than twiddle his thumbs waiting for computer power to catch up with MIR's demands... [;)]

    Martin


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    @drew buchan said:

    Hmmmmm I have to admit I am a bit perplexed by this announcement. I do think the PowerPanner looks truly innovative, especially if the pre-sets are pre-configured for each section of the orchestra. BUT ... apart from the PowerPanner, I don't understand why a) people think a bunch of plug-in EQs and Compressors is innovative, and b) why VSL are spending development time on these. Back in the spring I did make a post requesting that PowerPanner from VE was incorporated in VI, but the answer was to use the capabilities of Cubase or buy Waves S1. Perhaps the answers are; - VSL are developing these as component parts of MIR anyway, and since they are ready to can be released as a separate package to create a new revenue stream. - Maybe they are optimised for the VSL samples. I would be very interested in buying the PowerPanner separately, but the overall package looks expensive to me. Sorry not to be a bit more positive. I am a big customer of VSL, (having spent thousands of pounds over the years) to acquire various horizon packages , the full cube, chamber II, appassionata II and several downloads ... so I'm not a tight fisted individual, so I don't feel I am being impertinent to question this release. (Looking forward to a big band library 😉 What makese these EQs and compressors special?
     

    Hi

    I too would find it hard to drop this amount on eq's and compressors. Like most people on here, I have already spent alot of money on these type of products with things like the UAD Neve plugins, TC powercore etc. 

    However what would definitly interest me is the power panner, I think it would be a good idea to sell the lot for say 375 euro or the option to purchase each individually for 70 euro. I think you would find alot of people willing to purchase the power panner who don't need the other components. I know it is more work on the download side of things but I really feel it would pay off in the long run.

    Just my 2 cents! Still love all VSL products, keep up the good work.

    Thanks!


  • My concern with this is around more use of the syncrosoft key. The time taken to scan for licences is pretty dire and now there are even more licences for plugins - perhaps the VSL team can have a focussed effort on trying to fix this.

    Recently I've been using the new Symphobia library and Omnisphere product and have greatly welcomed the challenge/response method of security - its' far far quicker and doesn't impede workflow.

    Perhaps VSL could offer a Cube licence that is checked first before individual ones and compares it with the content you are trying to load as specified in the Directory Manager.

    Just my two penny's.

    Tim

  • Hi Tim,

    are you sure that scanning takes so much time?

    It takes just a few seconds for my 6 extended libreries

    I think you are musunderstading the time for loading Vienna samples with the time for dongle scanning.

    I hate the challenge response because everytime I change something in my PC (and they are really many) I have to write and wait for a code

    even if I save the things.

    Maybe one day my vienna-key could be broken or lost and I could change idea...

    but until that day I prefer so much to have the opportunity to use it wherever I want.

    I work on 4 computers in different buildings and is a fine thing to have Vienna on them all and use it when I need it.

    I am half a computer programmer and half a musician.

    When I worked for a software-house we did never have a problem with dongles we have sold to protect our works.

    Sergino


  • Hi All,

    These plug-ins look really exciting and the price is very reasonable considering all that is being offered in the Vienna Suite.  However, I'd like to know what are the specific performance advantages of a 64-bit plug-in over a 32-bit plug-in for things like EQ, Compression, Spacialization, etc?  Also, does a performance advantage translate into a sonic advantage as well?  In other words, can you hear the difference between the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of the same EQ plug-in as an example?

    Thanks, Brian


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    @Brian said:

    Hi All,

    These plug-ins look really exciting and the price is very reasonable considering all that is being offered in the Vienna Suite.  However, I'd like to know what are the specific performance advantages of a 64-bit plug-in over a 32-bit plug-in for things like EQ, Compression, Spacialization, etc?  Also, does a performance advantage translate into a sonic advantage as well?  In other words, can you hear the difference between the 64-bit and 32-bit versions of the same EQ plug-in as an example?

    Thanks, Brian

    There are about 6 questions here. 64bit can refer to many things, but the most important of these (IMO) is that you will be able to load it in a 64bit host such as VE.

    As far as using 64bit audio processing, this has, as yet, to show any advantage, other than theoretical. I would imagine that these plugs are able to use a 64bit audio engine, simply because some sequencer developers seem to think that it is important.

    DG