It would also depend on the material. Certain writing translates easily to samples while other things sound horrible and require a ton of tweaking or 'tricks' to get the right sound. ---Clark
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True, and the only rule I give myself is not to hand it in before you give it a nights rest and is happy the next day after the first listen, of course time is often a factor so that's not always possible, but if time is not a factor that's my rule, sometimes this happens after 1 day and other times 5,7, 8 etc days, and as Clark said it depends on the complexity of the work and samples required.
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...is not to hand it in before you give it a rest ...
How true...
Beat
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By the way
Guy, I wish you all the Best for 2008,
and a lot of melodies and ideas for your projects [;)]
- Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/ -
If the material has a lot of long sustained notes........(my writing does....as in film /mood material) .......Then 80% of my mock-up time goes to drawing in the "velocity swell curves") IT IS EVERYTHING!! it takes forever to get it right......without it, forget it it will always sound bad...The last thing that is extremely time consuming is the slight tempo-curve changes, this takes a long time......it is crucial for making these types of cues sound "conducted"......without that finl touch, this material remains incredibly flat and lifeless........ Mind you I am speaking of extreme / realism here....Which in the end will still only sound circa 70% as good as the real thing.... It all depends on how obsessive you are willing to be ;-) SvK
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So realistically, I would say 12 hours a minute....So 120 hours...........for 10 minutes...........this applies to the type of material I mentioned above, and does NOT include composition time...JUST mock-up time..... SvK
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So realistically, I would say 12 hours a minute....So 120 hours...........for 10 minutes...........this applies to the type of material I mentioned above, and does NOT include composition time...JUST mock-up time..... click on "SvK_Corridor_Homage.mp3" http://www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8307 SvK
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Hi SVK, thanks for your input here.
Read your posts on the link you send;
Very generous and most documented to see the velocity curves and all.
Thanks man!
Phew 12 hours a minute...
-Emanuel
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...is not to hand it in before you give it a rest ...
How true...
Beat
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By the way
Guy, I wish you all the Best for 2008,
and a lot of melodies and ideas for your projects
Thanks Beat, of course I wish you great things as well for 2008.
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Hey Guy and Beat and Jay!
Thanks for your professional posts here.
Greatly appreciated ;)
-Em
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There is a lot of good information in this thread. However, the one thing where the answer depends on your sequencer is the little Tempo fluctuations issue. I find this the easiest and quickest bit to do. I just play and record the track live with everything else muted, complete with wrong notes and chords, and then either drag the barlines to fit the "performance" or use merge from tap tempo. It takes roughly as long to do as it takes to play the track twice. Of course I have a lot of conducting experience, so I find this sort of thing very easy.
DG
