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  • What are Release Samples for?

    L
    L

    Good day everyone. I am using the Solo Strings Std and I have seen folders which contain release samples and for the life of me, I can't figure out how to use them. Anytime I load a sample into a cell it shows that it is occupying ram,but when I try to trigger from a kybd, I don't hear anything.

    So,my question(s) is (are):

    1) are these not audible in the Std library?

    2) if they are supposed to be audible in the Std library,how do I use them?

    Thanks to all who respond.

    luces
  • H
    H

    These release samples patches are automatically used by their corresponding normal patches (sustains, tremolo, legati etc.)  

    Please do not try to load them into aVienna Instruments matrix – you will not be able to hear anything when you try to play them.

    best

    Herb
  • D
    D
    You don't have to load them (and can't as Herb said.) All you have to do is turn Release Sample 'ON' in the player. Check to see if your patch has as 'RS' when it's loaded in a matrix window. If you see RS then you can turn it on by assigining a controller to it in the performance page (where you find the various control features such Crossfade Modulation slider and others.
  • L
    L

    Thank you both very much. This certainly makes it clear to me.

    luces
  • R
    R

     This actually brings up a question I have also had.  "Should we ever turn the RS OFF"?  (perhaps for fast lines, etc.)

    Everyone's opinion?

    Rob 
  • D
    D
    Yes in fact you should leave it off until you need it when a note ends and isn't followed by a connected note. Otherwise you will chew up cpu resources and have unatural releases showing up.
  • R
    R

    Funny I have never before really even thought about this[:$]

    I'll look for a controller to assign to this task.  What controller is everyone using?

    Rob 
  • D
    D

    I just stick it in one of my banks of controllers, as I have one for everything in the GUI. I switch them off for legato lines, and then whack them on for the last note of a phrase. Other than that I pretty much forget about them.

    DG
  • H
    H

    If you use performance legato patches no Release Samples are triggered if you stay within the legato trashhold.

    (The Release of the previous note is already included in the start of the following legato note).

    Only endnotes of a legato phrase will trigger a Release samples.

    So the perf-legato stuff is automatically very economic.

    On the other hand, if you use normal sustains for fast legato or repetition phrases, maybe even in polyphic mode,

    you will get an Release Sample overflow very fast.

    Especially with instruments which have long Release Times (for example double basses).

    All the triggered release samples will ring during their very end.

    If the release samples are for example 2 seconds long, and you are triggering 10 different notes in two seconds, there will ring ten different release samples at once.

    If velocity crossfade is active, and the patch uses four velocities, there will ring 40 voices of releae samples even with a monophonic line!

    best

    Herb
  • D
    D

    I leave gaps between notes to simulate tonguing or bowing with legato instruments. In those cases I find that it is best to use the sustain pedal to close the gaps, but not to use releases, except for the last note of a phrase.

    DG
  • D
    D
    The best is a switch that's either on or off so you can whatever you have available on your controller keyboard. In DP controller info shows up in one area and switches in another so it keeps things less cluttered to have RS's as a switch. Herb gave a better and more detailed response about RS's being left on. Things get crazy and overloaded in a hurry in certain cases. It's much easier to create your lines or parts and after (say) a phrase is done, turn the RS on where it belongs and then make sure it's off going into the next section.