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  • P
    P

    Page end and page down won't work until you click into the forum frame. That should be the same behaviour for all browsers. The reason might be, that you browsed the old forums full screen and didn't notice it yet.

    All the best,

    PolarBear 
  • M
    M

    The following do NOT work here in Safari or Netscape:

    Page up

    Page down

    Arrow up

    Arrow down

    Only grabbing the scroll button works. It doesn't make any difference where I click on the page (ie any particular frame or area). 
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    the scroll wheel (or button) usually is related to the part of the screen, above which the cursor is located (even without this position having the focus), the up/down page-up/page-down buttons are usually related to the part of the window which has the focus.

    a part of the window can be the window itself, a frame, a scrollable layer (as in our case here), a dropdown, a textarea, some other elements ....

    btw: the scroll wheel can also sroll left right if the cursor is above the right position and horizontal scrolling is available ... check it out ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • M
    M

     Sorry cm - I meant the scroll bar of the window, not a scroll button or wheel on a mouse:
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    very interesting finding - i went into details to find out: safari does not scroll layers at all using keys (win + mac), firefox does (also win + mac) - seems to be a specific behavior and can't be changed from the code side.

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • M
    M

     Thanks cm...

    I'm now using Firefox for the VSL forums - it seems to work very well.

    All buttons are visible, arrow keys work - what a pleasure.

    Thanks for taking the trouble to check out these strange problems. Maybe you should write to Apple and tell them what's wrong with Safari! [;)]

    Regards - Colin 
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    so at least we found a workaround for you .. regarding writing to apple .... i contributed with several comments and suggestions to safari on windows (eg one should be able to resize the window on every edge instead of only richt bottom corner, especially if the window opens bigger than the screen is ....) - guess what i received back: nothing!

     

    IMO the most inconvenient issue with safari is that you can't set caching behavior in any preferences and it persitantly ignores any http-headers like *do not cache* or *content is expired* ... too bad ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • P
    P
    How are you getting on with solving the problems of paragraphs when using Safari?
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    the rich text editing capabilities are provided by tinyMCE, which is a widely spread and highly compatible editor and used by default for the forum software.

    we could try to use another one to overcome a few issues with safari, but basically this is related to the special implementation of javascript in safari (see also http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=666 )

     

    maybe the same reason is responsible for the fact, that apple websites frequently throw javascript exceptions if visited with other browsers (object expected, blabla) - also regarding this behavior i have written several times to apple without receiving any reply.

     

    since this seems to have no priority for them i think we should not feel responsible searching for workarounds to fix bugs of software from much bigger companies ....

    christian

     

    edit: since a few years javascript is standardized as ECMA script http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • N
    N
    Regardless of whose fault it is, almost everyone on a Mac uses Safari, so might it be worth talking to the developers of the forum software? Or maybe shrieking at them? :) You know what they say: politics is the art of the possible, not the ideal.
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    with all due respect - the former forum software didn't allow rich text formatting or images at all and i'm already a little bit tired of troubling around to fix someone elses bugs or ignorance ...

    as mentioned we could exchange tinyMCE with any convenient editor, but since testing and adjusting the styles would need a lot of time the priority level of this task is pretty low ...

    nevertheless we can request this from the developers of tinyMCE (who are aware of this issue as linked above) and see how far they get ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • S
    S
    Hi

    I use safari and the only way to get paragraphs is to use the br tag when you type. To add a line gap simply add two br tags.
  • N
    N

    Well, now Safari doesn't work for me at all. Weird - I just get a "bad command" message.

    Let's see of Firefox enters paragraph returns... 
  • N
    N
    I guess so.