Ahh, some movement, or rather a hill slide happen over night... Thanks to all!!!
At day four my workflow is:
1) Composing in the sequencer program.
2) Preparing the tracks in the sequencer for MIDI export, so I save editing time after opening in the notation program. For example preparing the notes of the non-tonal percussion.
3) Importing the MIDI file into the notation program Sibelius; formating and editing till print ready. E.g. get rid of ledger lines overlapping etc..
4) Alternatively, I see the potential to compose in the notation program, and then exporting to the sequencer for making the preprod. arrange mix.
Most important is a fast workflow, and the right visual quality!
At the moment the playback features are not so important to me, i will see how playback affects my workflow in the notation program.
Scores Pop:
For pop tunes I don’t see any problems. I looked at scores from Sammy Nestico made with Sibelius, that’s pretty much the way what musicians get for the recording session. The hand music fonts look as in the days when all was hand written by copyists. I may buy this fonts to enhance the hand music look:
http://store.yahoo.com/expressmusic/musicfonts1.html
However I will not make the copyist’s work, it’s just wanna deliver prepared data to the copyist.
a) Most commonly I have to make myself the arrange mix, and at least a lead sheet for the engineer to mix if the tracks are all out of the box. Bruce doesn’t mix anything without a sheet who at least shows the form and the important cues, then he makes his own score before he starts mixing.
b) Or deliver the data to a copyist to make all the paperwork for session
Scores Non-Pop:
I do basically two types of work where notation is necessary, arranging pop productions, and in between my own contemporary compositions, here I plan to re-make three or four scores of older popular works of mine. For the “earnest” pieces I give much on the notation quality, who should look similar good as old engraving.
---> DG: Have to find out what it means “Saving time using Dynamic Parts”. But saw the chapter already in the manual…
---> R.K.: I made three orchestra scores with Logic in the past. The limit of notation is reached before anything is notated properly. I don't know if notation improved since mac took over. That's why i wrote all by hand till now. But i think software reached a point where it's almost as fast as hand writing. My fastest arranger makes a score in 6-8 hours by hand incl. transcription from my arrange mix. I spoke several times with him if he would be faster using the notation program, i his case Sibelius, he said no. Of course if the hand written score has to be recorded afterwards, then the paperwork has to be made.
More suggestions, ideas, and experiences are appreciated. It's amazing what one can learn being online...
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@DG said:
Sibelius has Dynamic Parts, which can save hours.
S has video (and audio) sync, F doesn't.
For 99.9% of things there is no difference in the printed output, however, there are a few very minor things that F can do that S can't or it is rather clumsy to do.
DG
At day four my workflow is:
1) Composing in the sequencer program.
2) Preparing the tracks in the sequencer for MIDI export, so I save editing time after opening in the notation program. For example preparing the notes of the non-tonal percussion.
3) Importing the MIDI file into the notation program Sibelius; formating and editing till print ready. E.g. get rid of ledger lines overlapping etc..
4) Alternatively, I see the potential to compose in the notation program, and then exporting to the sequencer for making the preprod. arrange mix.
Most important is a fast workflow, and the right visual quality!
At the moment the playback features are not so important to me, i will see how playback affects my workflow in the notation program.
Scores Pop:
For pop tunes I don’t see any problems. I looked at scores from Sammy Nestico made with Sibelius, that’s pretty much the way what musicians get for the recording session. The hand music fonts look as in the days when all was hand written by copyists. I may buy this fonts to enhance the hand music look:
http://store.yahoo.com/expressmusic/musicfonts1.html
However I will not make the copyist’s work, it’s just wanna deliver prepared data to the copyist.
a) Most commonly I have to make myself the arrange mix, and at least a lead sheet for the engineer to mix if the tracks are all out of the box. Bruce doesn’t mix anything without a sheet who at least shows the form and the important cues, then he makes his own score before he starts mixing.
b) Or deliver the data to a copyist to make all the paperwork for session
Scores Non-Pop:
I do basically two types of work where notation is necessary, arranging pop productions, and in between my own contemporary compositions, here I plan to re-make three or four scores of older popular works of mine. For the “earnest” pieces I give much on the notation quality, who should look similar good as old engraving.
---> DG: Have to find out what it means “Saving time using Dynamic Parts”. But saw the chapter already in the manual…
---> R.K.: I made three orchestra scores with Logic in the past. The limit of notation is reached before anything is notated properly. I don't know if notation improved since mac took over. That's why i wrote all by hand till now. But i think software reached a point where it's almost as fast as hand writing. My fastest arranger makes a score in 6-8 hours by hand incl. transcription from my arrange mix. I spoke several times with him if he would be faster using the notation program, i his case Sibelius, he said no. Of course if the hand written score has to be recorded afterwards, then the paperwork has to be made.
More suggestions, ideas, and experiences are appreciated. It's amazing what one can learn being online...
.