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  • Playing or Clicking...?

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    I was curious, do you guys click the notes in on your sequencer, or play and record it through a MIDI keyboard? Playing would be easy, but with VLS' samples, you usually need to mesh sustain and staccato patches together.

    I'll be honest, I click the notes in SONAR. I'm just more used to it.

    What about you all?
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    This subject comes up repeatedly, in many different music and samples forums. There are those who claim it is necessary for proper expression to "play it in" -- but I've never understood how they could possibly handle the rapid various articulation changes while playing it in (thinking string lines especially), nor how they could play a line without articulation changes and expect to have a good expressiveness remain after adding articulation changes to the line, since each patch has its own subtle variation of dynamics, length, and attack. So I proudly say, click! For many purposes, once you've gotten started on a particular work, cut and paste and modify works great. Just don't forget the MODIFY step, or things will get lifeless quickly.
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    @Omega said:


    I'll be honest, I click the notes in SONAR. I'm just more used to it.

    What about you all?


    It depends how good a keyboard player you are - it's really that simple. I said before - not all the guys are natural keyboard players - some play violin, horn etc etc etc.

    Clicking in with the mouse is no problem at all - you will probably get more articulation language like Gugliel says - no doubt about that. Some writers don't get overly concerned about that though and don't care so much about the realism issue - others do. There's no right or wrong, just final results.

    Probably a bit of both - click and play. Playing certainly helps a lot with the legato aspect of things, if you're not worrying about articulations during a passage or phrase.
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    Heh, I've been playing piano for 14 years now...[:)] I definetly agree with you gugliel. The articulation changes are near impossible using the keyboard.
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    For speed input play, for detailed choices click. I do both, only to find out I could have clicked it all also, at a later point [[;)]] TJB said once he'd record every instrument on the fly (playing) in one or two go's. Combined with effective copy-pasting and little adjustments this might be the fastest way to input things. I also remember him saying if a part was too difficult to play with all the articulation changes or smth, he'd play it in with almost equivalent parts editing it later, so stac's and sustain's only, then do the changes to marcatos, legatos, repetitions or whatever later manually by drawing it in into the piano roll.

    Whatever fits you the best does work... For speed learn to play major parts in. [[;)]]

    PolarBear
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    I mostly play it in in one go with as many articulations as possible and then tidy it up afterwards. I am too impatient to click it all, and in some cases you can "feel" where you need to overlap notes for legato or portamento. The whole control key articulation thing does become second nature very quickly. I had fun to begin with and got quite frustrated initially, but then it sunk in just fine.
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    Um ...I read this thread and another one called 'new to VSL - setting up templates' and then replied to *both* subjects in that thread! [:O]ops:

    ...but seeing as the poster there uses Digital Performer and I mentioned a few DP specific features I thought I'd just leave it there - anyway, have a look on that thread if you like! (especially if you use DP).