Audun,
I can´t post a link, since this forum here seems not to support it. The browsers adress line always shows the same URL. But it´s here in the same forum, ten threads away or something.
Your brass question I don´t really understand, what you mean. But all brass is VSL.
Bests,
- M

Alrighty...I just meant what brass instruments are playing where I mensioned? Horns in F? It just sounded so good...

Hi Audun,

actually I still don´t really understand what you mean. At exactly 0:50 there is trombone ens, bass trombone, tuba, and counterbassoon.
But I still don´t get the chainsaw thing... [*-)] (Even if you like it, which makes it, of course, much better [:D] )

To the others:
It seems to me that I kind of overused your attention. Which I can understand.
The downside of that virtual orchestra thing is that one is working alone. And when I finished a work I admittedly need lots of attention and feedback, which is of course hard to get alone behind a computer. The feedback I recieved from you earlier here in this forum, namely and above all Evan, Dave, William and Paul, warmed the cockles in my heart and gave me strong motivation. Thank you very much for that.
Of course I got a bit used to that [:O]ops: and now I´m a bit frustrated [:'(] that nothing is coming. But, of course, I can handle that [H] .
Having said that, still I really loved to hear some critic. of course, also if you don´t like the piece.
I won´t torture you then with my music anymore.... [[;)]]

With love,
- Mathis

@mathis said:

To the others:
It seems to me that I kind of overused your attention. Which I can understand.The downside of that virtual orchestra thing is that one is working alone. And when I finished a work I admittedly need lots of attention and feedback, which is of course hard to get alone behind a computer. - Mathis

Mathis,

You will, you will. I haven't downloaded it yet because I'm in the middle of changing my internet systems. That will be another week yet and then I will download the piece, I can assure you. Evan is away somewhere, Dave has a cold and Bill will probably get round to it.

Don't worry. The others will come back to you on this I'm sure. [H]

Later

Paul

PS. I feel like cr@p myself at he moment, so you wouldn't want any feedback from me now, anyway.

Later

Paul

Sorry for my impatience... [:O]ops:


What´s wrong? Why do you feel like crap?

@mathis said:

What´s wrong? Why do you feel like crap?

HaaHAHHa. Lol.

Its just a bug that makes you feel tired. No worries and thanks for your concern. Plus, I'm using VSL to write a 1 minute 30 second piece provisionally named Clocktime which I need to submit, and I don't have the Perf Tool yet. And I'm stuck at 55 seconds and my brain has caved in. You know how it can be.

Anyway.

Later

Paul [:)]

Mathis,

I was also delayed by the size of this file since (I'm sorry to say) I am only on a modem. But I downloaded it and listened - excellent work! It is a very interesting piece, with your development of the short motifs throughout different instrumental groups skillfully handled. I particularly like how you used a lot of percussion with some detailed passages alternating between the rolls, single strokes, etc. on snares. Also, I was impressed by the realism you obtained in your performance practice. This is not automatic simply because of VSL and requires someone who knows how the instruments sound and uses really musical phrasing which you proved previously on your oboe solo. (Played by that excellent hobo.)

Seriously, congratulations on a fine job!

William Kersten

Dear William,
I feel flutterly honoured that you took the effort to download this track with a modem! I appreciate that very much and thank you for your kind feedback.
The perfomance programming almost drove me to despair so I´m glad that you mention that.
Bests,
- M


Audun, if you like I can send you the score in sibelius fomat. PM me your emailadress. I think that´s the easiest way to find out which brass I used.

Mathis,

The link is not available. Any thoughts?

Paul

www.audionomio.de/mp3/OrchestralDramaNr3_mix12_320kbit_14MB.mp3

I tried it again, it works here....

Sorry. Can't get it to download.

@mathis said:

I hope you agree that I made fast progress during the last four weeks. [[[:)]]] ry

Yes. I've just downloaded it this morning. Took about 3 minutes. I'm listening to it now through headphones for the 3rd time. You are definately making progress after just 4 weeks and have quite a lot of the orchestral palette on this one [[[:)]]]

I like your snares and implentation of using cross motifs throughout (if thats the way of putting it). Around 3.20 I like the way you change the colour and mood. Dark! Coming out at around 4.17. Yep. Thats very good work. 4.45 back to dark again. Some nice chordal progressions and a lot of imagination too. Hello? Whats this! OK. I like the Pink Floyd ending as well.

Excellent work and I enjoyed that. Many thanks.

Paul [[[:)]]]

Thank you for your kind comments, Paul.
I wasn´t aware that Pink Floyd used windmachines? The only thing I really associate with Pink Floyd are these really spread chords with nothing in the middle. But it´s actually long time ago that I heard to Pink Floyd. It was actually a great time, wasn´t it?

But anyway, thanks again,
bests,
- Mathis

Oh Goodness yes. Pink Floyd used anything they could, including wind noises. I first saw them live at the UFO club in London many years ago when Sid Barrett was still with them. They were very cutting edge for the time and were sub-cateogoried 'underground'.

Yes, there were some good times in those days, but I personally don't like to bathe in nostalgia. [:)]

I will say though, thank God Stanley Kubrick did'nt let them do the music to the film 2001. They were originally in the frame to do the soundtrack and I think this would have turned out disasterously. Who knows.

Bests

Paul

Really? Pink Floyd was going to do "2001"? That's bizarre.

You've got all kinds of juicy little tidbits, don't you old boy?

I agree with your mentioning Mathis' use of motival development and the snares. I was very impressed by that piece.

BTW have you heard the Jerry Goldsmith recording of the Alex North score? It is a masterpiece! And was never used...

@PaulR said:

Yes, there were some good times in those days, but I personally don't like to bathe in nostalgia. [:)]

Ah, I was more or less kidding. I mean, I grew up with "The wall", but basically I think my youth was just a bit late for the *real* Pink Floyd time.
But one or two years ago I went to a concert of Roger Waters, he made a kind of Liederabend, and it was very nice. Of course nostalgic without end, I mean you can imagine the age of the public [:D] .

However, I can´t see how their dramatic stuff (we germans say pathetisch, but I learned that this is quite a different meaning in english) could have worked with 2001.
I´m also curious what Alex North did. I´m such a great admirer of Ligetis work of the 60´s (I think I have almost his complete work here in my CD-collection) that I really can´t imagine what he should have written "against" Ligeti. I know North´s score to "Who´s afraid of Virginia Wolf", did he do similar things? Then actually I could understand why Kubrick went for Ligeti. I mean it´s so different... (in style)

Thanks again for the nice words. I basically try to be dependent on the least material possible. It took a long time for me to understand how´s that possible but now it finally starts to work. [:D]

Bests,
- Mathis

[quote=William]Really? Pink Floyd was going to do "2001"? That's bizarre....[quote]

At the time, it probably seemed less so. Floyd, even then, were very much into that light-show, etherial type, experimental sound. And, like Bernard Herrmann, Stanley Kubrick was very much a comitted Anglophile. Bit like yourself, my dear fellow. [H] Re: Alex North. Unfortunately, I have'nt. [:O]ops: Although I am very much aware (due to you and Dave's posts over time) what a fantastic writer he was. He and Goldsmith were very much friends and colleagues, I understand. Spartacus, of course.

Of course nostalgic without end, I mean you can imagine the age of the public . Quote [Mathis]

[:'(] You don't have to remind me. Yes. The Wall was more or less completely written by Roger Waters. When Dave Gilmore first heard the mock-up on Waters 4 track tape-recorder, he thought it was a mish-mash (an absolute mess). Thats the period when Pink Floyd fell apart, and I think you can hear that when you listen to this particular album. Never my favourite, but everyone has different tastes.

Pink Floyd were at their best imo when they came out with Dark Side of the Moon in 1971 (I think: memory problems), but I still like some of Sid Barretts songs a great deal. See Emily Play is still a classic for me (they had trouble doing it live, in those days).

Ligeti in 2001 came as a big surprise. You have to understand that I went to see 2001 when it came out in 1969 in a cinema that had stereo sound. That was a big deal at the time, and when you and everyone else are out of their heads, and that part hits the screen, well, it has an impact. One of the greatest cinema cuts of all time in that film. Do you know which one?

Of course, we're all very respectable theses days, which reminds me, I have to go to the super-market. Or shall I send my daughter. She has a faster car than me. [:D]

Later and bests

Paul

Paul,

Are you perhaps refering to the cut from the bone thrown up into the air to the orbiting satellite (which was supposed to be a nuclear warhead though we couldn't have known it)?

By the by old man, you didn't answer about my response about Hitchcock being afraid of police due to his five minute childhood "lock-down."

Carry On Posting