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Yes, compared to suicide and murder, Evan is relatively calm. Eclect, I appreciate your frustration with my sharped tongue post, but I insist that my remarks are genuine. My philosophy in life is to treat people with respect and even if you disagree with someone, "never burn your bridges." So I never said anything to Evan in the past, because he might someday be a person I need to deal with in the industry. And if I shot my mouth off to him as a kid, and he holds any power or persuasion over me in the future...not a good situation. You never know who will be where in the future. But the cork popped....I can't be nice and bottle it up anymore. He's no further up the ladder than he was 6 years ago when he touted himself as the only truly creative film composer.
"And your attempt to demean Evan (the most rude i ever saw on such kind of forums) whouldn't show that you are that kind of person who shoot in the back."
I don't know what this means, but I assure you I am as loyal as they come. Evan says he hides nothing and says what he thinks...so I did it for once...and as harsh as it was, it was what popped into my head when I read his posts.
Peter Roos...I understand what your saying here...but you do know that IMDb is a site where people submit there own info, right? I could submit everything you've done and it would be posted in a few weeks. This isn't a site with listings of only A-list material. If Evan is on IMDb, it's because Evan submitted his info...and they posted it like everything else that is submitted. The (pre-production) credits for the movie Fear of Clowns isn't something regularly circulating Hollywood. Read the listing...who do you think knows these works exist other than Evan...his anonymous biography is the same one he lists for himself on all his pages, and includes info olnly he would know. He posted the info. I'm not being a jerk, its true.
And where's my record?
That was exactly my point. I'll give input, and take stances...but I'm not going to tell you I'm the authority on everything, or that I write wonderful music, or that I'm the prized student of some BIG Hollywood guy, or that I get tons of work, or that I make lots of money from my music, or that I have lots of BIG Hollywood friends, or that my IQ is too high to discuss, or that I'll show people how to properly use the full extended orchestration of the VSL. Evan's music is decent...but his attitude is probably what keeps him where he is. Who knows how well he could have done in the last TCM Young Film Composers Competition...but they asked him to write an essay...he probably turned them away when he opened his mouth. If you think I'm way off base go read Evan's essay for TCM.
http://www.evanevans.org/archives.asp?ID=18
He writes fine...but he needs to learn some social skils if he's going to work anywhere...and those of you defending is obnoxious behavior are doing him no favors. The bully doesn't learn a life lesson until someone rings his bell. I was out of line...but someone had to call his bluff.
I apologize to those offended. >Newbie
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@newbiebigtime said:
I apologize to those offended. >Newbie
Newbie, Newbie, Newbie. Deary, deary me. [[:|]]
I'm not offended, actually. I'm dissapointed personally, that you felt (in your infinite wisdom, no doubt) that you had to let go of this particular vitriol. I thought we'd covered all this.
For your information Newbie, the last time my IQ was measured it was 162 and dropping.
I can't program a video, spell very well and have trouble tying my shoelaces as a matter of fact. IQ tests were bought about at the turn of the 19/20th century by a Frenchman to test autism in children, Means nothing really. However........
I haven't killed anyone yet............Newbie
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You should have put:
I haven't killed anyone, Newbie.........yet.
That would have been the post to end this thread on.
I have no delusions of infinite wisdom, and will never claim to. I know I'm not perfect.
In fact, I have hard time understanding the tone of all these posts at times as they cross cultural contexts.
I’m not sure whether you just agreed with me and you were disappointed that I backed down slightly from my originals caustic post, or if you’re telling me to knock it off.
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OK, I happened to stumble across these last few posts, and I'm quite surprised by them. PaulR, if you are criticizing Newbie for his post on the basis that it is your desire to create a message board "Utopia" where no one gets fed up with anyone and speaks their mind, then I suppose that is a noble ideal. On the other hand, if you are doing it to defend Evans then you are being a hypocrite. Evans destroys that sort of ideal all of the time. Perhaps you've said the same sort of things to Evans at some point (like telling him to go to his room), and if I missed those posts I apologize. I honestly can understand where Newbie is coming from. I think he said what many have thought but have not had the guts to say. It is amazing to me that despite the things Evans says, he manages to maintain some strange sort of support from some of the members of the forum (and if he is your personal friend, I'm sorry....I don't like my friends to be attacked either...however, sometimes the truth hurts and it should be a wake-up call to help your friend get a grip with reality, I care to much about my friends to let them act in unbecoming ways), but my guess would be that it must just be Evans using an alias to agree with himself. [[:D]]
OK, I don't really think he does that, I'm making a joke. Lighten up, sometimes a little venting is good. And I think Newbie's vent should at least be considered as powerful as 50 users [[:D]] Here is where you all laugh.........see, doesn't that feel better. I think a lot of people in this forum need to do more of that, and not take offense to a joke or a rip once and awhile.
You might tear into me for what I've said. I'll chuckle about it and feel just fine. Whether what Newbie said is true or false isn't important. Evans is clearly confident in his skills and doesn't need all this moral support. He is probably laughing right now. Why aren't we?
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Since Americans butchered the English language, I thought maybe that was another word we destroyed. We like to change words to suit us, I thought maybe we cut off the t because it just took too long to say it that way.
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@newbiebigtime said:
In fact, I have hard time understanding the tone of all these posts at times as they cross cultural contexts.
You've got a point there! In order to be able to filter out misunderstandings or "weird" statements in posts that may be due to cultural differences, it would be great if you all added your location to your profile (at least continent would be great). Everyone knows that Americans are loud and what British humo(u)r is all about. I'm obviously from Sweden so you won't be able to understand me but anyway... [:)]
/Mattias
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I kiss two lips most days. My girlfriend has a wonderful pair...
This thread is morphing from bitterness to love. What a wonderful thing. [:D]
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So what's better in the netherlands?
Roses on your synthesizer, or tulips on your organ?
[:D] Too far?
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@Nick Batzdorf said:
MATTIAS, AM I LOUD?
Nick, not at all, at least not compared to an American! [:D] [[;)]]
/Mattias
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