@mpower88 said:
I was paying attention to what you said until you said the onboard sounds beat samples.....
I disagree - Ivory piano and there are a few others out there - is excellent and can't be matched in a keyboard unless they load the same sounds and sample software into the keyboard itself.
Yeah, I understand all that. I mentioned the Ivory system on this board over a year before it came out - before anyone had heard of it actually. So when the Ivory AU came out, I went out and bought it. And yeah - it sounds pretty good, along with all the other pretty good piano samples. BUT - it's like any keyboard player worth a salt will tell you - playing a piano from a computer - through a keyboard - suffers. The differential between what's available as piano samples on a computer and what's in the Yamaha is so slight as not to be worth mentioning. Then there's the crappy latency issue you have to put with.
Saying the Ivory system is better than sounds within an electronic keyboard - is the sort of thing a non-keyboard player would say.
Let's get this out in the open with no bullshit.
If you want a really great piano sound - forget about computers and electronic keyboards. Get yourself a great soundcard - really good mics - a technician to set them up - and buy a Steinway.
Because none of the sampled pianos sound really great and that's a fact. They're like all samples - a compromise and a trade off.
The Yamaha is as good as any other sound from a piano sample library out there. In a mix, there is no difference at all. It's all imagination and wishful thinking based on capital expenditure.
There are other electronic pianos you can buy that are more expensive than the Yamaha that ALSO have good piano sounds - but you were talking originally about action if I remember correctly.
All piano sample libs are OK - but basically for good keyboard players a waste of money when you start adding it all up. Some nerdy types have loads of these piano libraries and STILL won't and don't get the sound they want.
Clark said it - open up all the boxes and try and find an action you like - because the quality control of these factory turned out electronic keyboards may not be all it should be. But Clark is a keyboard player and knows what he's looking for. It's the same as you giving me a violin and telling me it's great - I wouldn't have clue if that was true or false. Non -trained keyboard players haven't got a clue because an 'action' doesn't really mean anything to them if you think about it.
With all due respect to you Miklos - I can probably play things with my feet and left hand that you'll never be able to play with your right. First electronic keyboard I had was in 1965 - a Farfisa Compact - loved it. Then moved onto Hammonds, Moogs etc etc. Always though, there was a real piano. If that's not enough experience for you - then good luck in your quest.