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  • Composition by Soenke Schnepel

    Soenke Schnepel sent us this excerpt of his Piano Concerto No1

    Good to see, that our library also works for modern compositions.
    He also sent us a description of his composing technique.

    thanks a lot, Soenke
    Herb

    http://vsl.co.at/demo_user?DP_ObergruppeID=5&DP_GruppeID=16


    Piano Concerto Nr. 1, Sönke Schnepel

    The Piano Concerto is based on various composition techniques; the counterpoint structure is strongly emphasized without „falling“ into the use of classical methods of counterpoint like canon or fugue.
    Instead, I am working with overlays of completely separated sound strata, subdivided into different instrument groups. I believe that this can be heard best in the strings: a continuous pulse, almost like a light-footed dance, but always very quick and virtuoso. At the very beginning, after the piano has got its „introduction“, the woodwinds with sustained harmonic planes present a counterpoint to the gruffly advancing low strings and the brilliantly articulated brass.
    The percussion in an ever recurring way accentuates points of emphasis, but slightly displaced in time – one can hear the metric emphasis (a run-of-the-mill 4/8 without any changes of measure) but it gets strongly disturbed again and again.
    That’s another „principle“: everything is questioned, harmonic and temporal structures are changed again and again, evolutionary, almost profusely driven apart and at certain points in time brought to collide again; that which first threatens to run apart later collapses in massive sound mergings. I think that this running apart and collapsing can be heard immediately after the first section with its monumental proliferation of sound: piano and extremely high woodwinds chase away, crazy, virtuoso, extremely fast figurations, high blazing ligatures topple into final collisions, horns and trombones brace themselves against it up to the surprising moment of the violins‘ irritating 6ths and 7ths, tender swelling in primary temporal structures while below the strings carry on with the previous immense movement impulses, like echos or shadows.
    But the paramount principle is dramaturgy. Everything devlops from the ideas of drama and gesture. In this sense, my musical language and my world of ideas – to name a categorization without wanting to impose myself on it – can be found in the vicinity of Hans Werner Henze, Wolfgang Rihm, Luigi Nono and especially Cristobal Halffter.

  • Soenke Schnepel,

    Thanks for this interesting work - I'm glad that some people are using sampled sounds for ambitious concert music as well as film. For a bold and daring piece like this it seems to be a new venue, especially since orchestra directors today have become extremely timid. I wonder if you're going to record and release a cd of the entire work.


    Sincerely,
    William Kersten

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    @William said:

    Soenke Schnepel,
    Thanks for this interesting work - I'm glad that some people are using sampled sounds for ambitious concert music ...

    I second that sentiment. It's always a treat to hear contemporary art music. I also would like to hear the entire piece.

    Soenke, I was wondering about the brass staccatos in the beginning. They sound overly buzzy. I have only used VSL brass in legato passages so far and no short ff attacks. Is there a remedy for these attacks? More reverb?

    Craig Duke

  • William, Craig,

    Thanks for your kindly words. William, you are right. Today, playing and especially recording contemporary art music with a "real" orchestra has become very difficult, especially in Germany, where the overall economy slow down effects firstly the culture. This is one reason why I decided to use the VSL, it gives me more time to change details of the composition, especially if it comes more and more complex. Additional I get the flexibility to check the instrumentation, although this is sometimes not a trival task. When I have heard from VSL - and the most impressing demo was the adaption of "Air Fore One" and "An der schönen blauen Donau" - I was astonished so much about the quality that after some seconds hearing the sound I forgot that this has been realized by a virtual orchestra.

    Herb and his team has done a tremendous work and I believe that the consequences will be very extensive regarding music production in future. Please let me say at this point: thanks so much, Herb and your team, for realizing this amazing library.

    If everything is going well I will realize the complete composition of the piano concert with VSL. But the score has not been finished so far, better to say I'm far away to present a final version which will have an approximately duration of 20 - 25 minutes. Although it's the first time for me to write the score in conjunction with VSL most parts will be written as a particell before I can arrange it for instruments. But I will inform you if you like about the further progress of this work, maybe I publish a "work in progress" on my homepage.

    Craig, I think you mentioned especially the trumpet part at the beginning. The feedback I've got privately was that the trumpet sounds a bit too "MIDI" like, too synthetic. The most problem I currently have is not having a professional reverb. I'm using one PC with GigaStudio, all samples are going via Motu 828 Firewire card to an iMac which has also been connected to a second Motu 828 Firewire card. Everything has been recorded with Cubase SX on Mac but the reverb I used was coming from GigaStudio itself. I'm absolutely sure that the quality is not perfect and I'm searching for a much better reverb solution. Also the room perspectives regarding the different instrument groups has not been realized. So the result is that my sound engineering task has not been done and in this case I'm really impressed about the demo which are realized so far by all the other great talents presented in the VSL forum.

  • Hello Soenke,

    I'm very happy to hear that our Library is already used in an artistic context far apart from the more obvious romantic and/or hollywood-esque concepts of orchestral music - actually, I was always hoping that our work could help composers like you getting heard more often.

    That said, don't hesitate to ask all the knowledgable people on our forums (... and even me, if that's enough [;)] ...) for help regarding the more technical aspects of mixdowns and so on. If you don't want to discuss your results in public all the time (especially if it's "work in progress" like in your case), a private message will do the trick, too. I will answer as thoroughly as possible, even if it will take some days, when there's a lot of work to be done.

    All the best,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hello Dietz,

    thanks a lot. Regarding the reverb issues I mentioned before I'm now looking for TCWork's new upcoming PowerCore Firewire card. Fortunately I do have very good contacts to these guys and they told me that this device should be availabe in June. They promised me that I can get the card as soon as it's availabe for testing purposes. I'm very interesting to hear the results...

    Thanks,

    Soenke--

  • Yes, interesting stuff, that FireWire PowerCore - but it's for XP only, I've heard ... :-/

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library