Setting the instrument to MIDI Out Port: 2 (also regardless of MIDI Out Channel) looks like we don't get hanging notes.

That is indeed very strange. I really wish i had a newer version of LogicPro so that you can send me a project to look at it, because i just really think there must be something else that is being left out of this discussion, but its hard to guess just based on your description and not being able to inspect your problem project directly. I find it very odd that Port 1 out would not work and Port 2 would work. please make sure you are not using more than 127 tracks feeding a single VePro instance with AU3.

Also, when using any other MIDI Out Port besides 1, creating Aux tracks from the instrument track doesn't seem to work. Are Aux tracks created from the Instrument track in Logic (or vePro) not linked to the MIDI Out Port? And by Aux track, I'm talking about hitting the little (+) button on the Instrument track in the mixer. Not a huge fan of using Multi-Timbrel setups in Logic. I like the freedom to adjust individual instrument faders (unless there's a way to do that with multi-timbrel instruments I have overlooked without mucking about in the Environment).

Definitely do not mess around with AUX tracks right now. I really don't think those are going to work with AU3 at all.

AUX are working fine for me with VEP AU3, also no hanging notes, but i'm on Intel, Ventura, Logic 10.8.1, multiple instances, ports and channels

KeplersConundrum, you're right: of course switching MIDI In Ports to Off blocks everything - including MIDI keyboards!

Sorry about my stupid mistake - working long into the nights on a major design update of my monster subsystem in Logic's Environment is not conducive to clear thinking during the day! I'd forgotten I typically don't use my keyboards at all when working with symphonic scores and so usually have all MIDI In Ports off to catch any accidentally unmanaged loops in my Environment design (which actually relies on carefully managed IAC Bus loops using non-standard routing).

Anyway, it's interesting that you've not eliminated stuck notes by switching off all MIDI In ports. And I agree with your pragmatic decision to shelve VEP, at least until we know the stuck note problem with Logic & VEP AU3 in Apple Silicon is history.

BTW I'm working with latest VEP AU3 with latest Logic in latest Ventura on an Intel iMac and haven't yet encountered stuck notes (although of course that's of no direct relevance to the issue in your Apple Silicon machine).

@ravez said:

AUX are working fine for me with VEP AU3, also no hanging notes, but i'm on Intel, Ventura, Logic 10.8.1, multiple instances, ports and channels

You are not specifically saying whether you are talking about using AUX "tracks", which is what I was referring to. AUX "tracks" are an undocumented way with AU2 multi-timbral instruments to create aux tracks for feeding the multi-timbral instrument, rather then the normal way. we're not talk about the AUX audio outs here, we are talking about AUX midi tracks. They do not work properly with AU3 instruments, at least as of 10.7.9, they do not provide a midi out port in the track inspector. If the OP is attempting to use that undocumented feature I would take it out of the scenario for now.

Based on the feedback from others that Logicpro 10.8.1 (intel) is working without hanging notes in AU3, I really think we have to isolate this issue down to either (A) Apple Silicon, or (B) something about the specific way the OP has their LogicPro template setup which is not immediately clear right now based on the descriptions so far.

Its not immediately clear to me right now that VePro is the culprit, but it might be. But we don't have enough information right now about the LogicPro project. But it does seem there are relatively few people reporting this kind of problem, and many others are not reporting this problem, but it does seem that Apple Silicon is a requirement for replicating the reported problem in some way.

@Dewdman42 said:

@ravez said:

AUX are working fine for me with VEP AU3, also no hanging notes, but i'm on Intel, Ventura, Logic 10.8.1, multiple instances, ports and channels

You are not specifically saying whether you are talking about using AUX "tracks", which is what I was referring to. AUX "tracks" are an undocumented way with AU2 multi-timbral instruments to create aux tracks for feeding the multi-timbral instrument, rather then the normal way. we're not talk about the AUX audio outs here, we are talking about AUX midi tracks. They do not work properly with AU3 instruments, at least as of 10.7.9, they do not provide a midi out port in the track inspector. If the OP is attempting to use that undocumented feature I would take it out of the scenario for now.

got it, thanks for explaining, i see what you mean now

humor me and extend the end of the region beyond the end of the last note.

I really doubt that is it though. I tried to recreate exactly your scenario above and no hanging notes. I put logging plugin both in logicPro and inside VePro...Last NoteOff comes in no problem for me here... So I don't know what is different for it, it's very strange. Can you make sure the plugin used inside VePro is native Apple Silicon?

@Dewdman42 said:

humor me and extend the end of the region beyond the end of the last note.

Note continues to hang with extended region and beyond.

@Dewdman42 said:

I really doubt that is it though. I tried to recreate exactly your scenario above and no hanging notes. I put logging plugin both in logicPro and inside VePro...Last NoteOff comes in no problem for me here... So I don't know what is different for it, it's very strange. Can you make sure the plugin used inside VePro is native Apple Silicon?

Running the most up-to-date versions of Kontakt 7 and SINE, which are both Silicon native now. Both players and any instrument I add to them create hanging notes.

I'm out of ideas at this point. Hope either Apple or VSL can figure it out.

its also really weird that its only the last note that is left hanging.