Using Multiple VEP Instances (> 16 Instruments) In Finale And Cubase

[jdw]

I am currently using VEP 7 with Finale V26 and with Cubase Pro 10.5 (on an iMacPro)

I have been using one Instance (with 16 Instruments) in both programs

But now I need to use more than 16 active connected instruments, and have no idea how to do this in either Finale or Cubase

Is there a step-by-step setup procedure for either or both of these programs. 

Any assistance would be very much appreciated

Dave

[Paul]

Hi Dave,

In Cubase, you can insert VE Pro as VST3 plug-in, which will provide your with multiple MIDI Ports (with 16 MIDI Channels each).

In Finale, You will want to insert another VE Pro plug-in and open a new VE Pro instance (just like you opened the first one) to access another 16 MIDI channels.

Best,
Paul

[jdw]

 

Hi Paul, Thank You Very Much For Your Response

 

iMac Pro, VEP 7 For Mac , Finale v26 Latest Update

 

In Cubase, I Did The Following And Was Successful ... Open VEP Server > Open Cubase > Use Rack To Open 3 VEP Icons (Called An Instance, Player, Or Instrument ???) > Create Midi Track To Open VEP Plug-In Connection Boxes For Each One > Connect Each One To A New Instance > Raise Each Instance > Add Instruments;  All VEP Server Instances And VEP Keyboard Play Back

 

If I Use The Above Server & Instances (Created In Cubase), In Finale They Will All Play Simultaneously From VEP Keyboard And Score

 

In Finale, I Did The Following And Was Unsuccessful ... Open VEP Server > Open Finale (Create Score Etc.) > Use Audio Units Banks & Effects To Select 3 VEP Icons (Called An Instance, Player, Or Instrument ???) > Edit (Pencil) To Open VEP Plug-In Connection Boxes For Each One > Connect Each One To A New Instance > Raise To Display 3 New Plugged  And Connected Instances (Routed To Bank 1, Bank 2, Bank 3 For Both Finale Score Manger And VEP Instrument Channels) > Add Instruments To Banks;  (Checked All Banks And Channels For Consistency)

 

Finale Result 

All Instances Are Playable On VEP7 Keyboard 

Only Instance 1 (Bank 1-16) Plays Back From Score

When Selected, Bank 2 (17-32) And Bank 3 (33-48) Instances Do Not Play Back

Adding Tracks Beyond Track 16 To A VEP Instance Will Not Play Back

There Are no Numbered Instruments Above 16

 

I CAN ONLY ASSUME THE PROBLEM IS IN THE BANK CHANNEL NUMBERS

 

Any Assistance Would Be Very Much Appreciated,  Paul

 

Dave

[andi]

Hello Dave!

Finale labels the channels on instrument bank 2 as channels 17-32, but in fact they are channels 1-16. The MIDI standard doesn't offer the possibility to use more than 16 channels on one MIDI port. In the Finale Score Manager the channels get labeled from 1-16 regardless of the bank the instrument is loaded on.

So to trigger more than 16 channels with Finale, please proceed as follows:

- Start Vienna Ensemble Pro Server (64-bit).
- In Finale assign the Vienna Ensemble Pro plugin to Bank 1 AND Bank 2.
- Connect the plugins to the VE Pro Server.
- In the two Vienna Ensemble Pro instances add your instruments. Leave the MIDI port setting in both instances at "All" or "1".
- Make sure to set the same channels in the Finale Score Manager and in your Vienna Ensemble Pro instances.

Best regards,
Andi

[jdw]

Thank you Andreas 

Your solution was to leave the port settings at 1 for all instances, in both the VEP Instances and in Score Manager  ... I had erroneously changed them to match the Finale Bank Numbers 2, 3, 4, etc.  Everything works fine in Finale and Cubase now.

I really have to thank you and Paul for the reliably rapid responses to customers like me. I am amazed that you are able to respond so quickly.

Thanks Again, Andreas,😃

Dave