Don't know where you got that idea of this move is getting away from hardware dongles. Why Steinberg is dropping it's dongle - I have no idea. I'd rather have a dongle than a machine license or a cloud license. The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.It seems to me that the whole point of this move is to get away from hardware licensers. I use Cubase and it will soon be rid of it's elicenser which is great for me as I have a new Macbook Air M1. If I have to have a dongle I might as well use the elicenser(s) I already have!
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The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.
I've used machine licenses for years and they have been just fine.
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The cloud is not reliable and it means you have to have your daw computer online. Most studios don't allow their machines online. And a machine license restricts you from easily moving your asset to another machine - again the computers would have to be online.
I've used machine licenses for years and they have been just fine.
Had it happen where if I make a change in my system the machine license goes south. Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.
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Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.
No hoops at all! I have 3 VEP licenses using 3 dongles on three computers. Three machine licenses would be so much better! I've machine licensed hundreds of plugins and never had a problem.
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Besides if you want to use a licensed plugin that has a machine license on another machine you've got all kinds of hoops to jump through. Not so with an iLok or Vienna Key.
No hoops at all! I have 3 VEP licenses using 3 dongles on three computers. Three machine licenses would be so much better! I've machine licensed hundreds of plugins and never had a problem.
With a dongle you can take your license anywheres to any machine in any studio.
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With a dongle you can take your license anywheres to any machine in any studio.
Why on earth would you want to?
I gather you've never worked in in a studio other than you're own right? Been there/done that and not everyone has the same things you work with. Not all licenses are site-wide but only good for one person. And if I need to go to a backup machine having the license on a dongle makes it super easy. I guess you've never had a system take a dump on you.
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[/quote]I gather you've never worked in in a studio other than you're own right? Been there/done that and not everyone has the same things you work with. Not all licenses are site-wide but only good for one person. And if I need to go to a backup machine having the license on a dongle makes it super easy. I guess you've never had a system take a dump on you.
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I've worked in lots of other studios but not one that had VEP installed and didn't have a dongle!
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I've worked in lots of other studios but not one that had VEP installed and didn't have a dongle!
[/quote]It may not be legit to use the studio's dongle - not sure that VSL grants site licenses.
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I'm not sure what that means but it's all moot because VSL is not going to have computer licenses anyway.
We either have to have a dongle or be connected 24/7 to the internet.
[/quote]I never mentioned computer licenses. Strictly talking about dongles. And 24/7 connection to the net isn't going to happen unless VSL allows iLok Cloud. That's iffy at best and depends on a studio having it's machine online all the time.
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Hi,
I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer.
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...
Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)
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[quote=Charles-Zoltan de Leissègues;307610]
Hi,
I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer.
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...
Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)[/quote]Won't the elicenser s/w run in Rosetta 2?
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I tried once, and it didn't work for me, btw this key is in end of life ... don't want to use it anymore
[quote=Charles-Zoltan de Leissègues;307610]
Hi,
I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer.
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...
Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)[/quote]
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happy if it's works for you, not for me, as I had a really bad experience with it (month of unusable plug in cause of it and the support of steinberg was aware of the problem) I don't want to use this key anymore !!!
[quote=Charles-Zoltan de Leissègues;307610]
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
Mine works fine on my Macbook Air M1 (Cubase and VEP)
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[quote=Charles-Zoltan de Leissègues;307610]
Hi,
I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer.
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...
Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)[/quote]If a dongle is wonky do this: shut down your computer then unplug and replugin the dongle and then start up the computer. Connections can go flaky with no apparent reason - humidity changes and such can cause connections to go flaky. Just had such an issue with my Vienna Key last week and what I wrote fixed the issue.
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Oh ! I plug and unplug the elicenser several times because it was not detected - never had to do this with my iloks ...The elicenser is terminated good bye no regret 😊
I updated to nexus 4 just to leave the elicenser no waiting for VSL (and probably buy the complete vocals)[quote=Charles-Zoltan de Leissègues;307610]
Hi,
I'm considering to buy the voice complete, but I have an apple silicon computer.
I had a long and bad experience with the elicenser, and it's no longer working on m1 (not sad)
But I don't want to spend money on something I can't use until ...
Any idea of the release of Ilok authorization ? (I guess this a question that all user in the forum are wondering)[/quote]
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What's the date that ilok would replace the e-licenser? Because I want to buy the new harp, but the situation now is quite awkward to me.