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  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
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    Hi tdwctdwc, 

    Thanks for the feedback, I'll pass it on to the team!

    We're definitely planning more FX Presets, just waiting for some more feedback from our experienced and new users, and we're also talking to some sound-designers out there. There are so many options available now, and the hardest part is to pick the best ones for you!

    Exciting times ahead 😊

    Best,
    Paul 

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • marnixM
    VSL Team
    marnixM

    Hi Cyril,

    What exactly do you mean by "setup by song like in Mainstage"?

    Would you please elaborate, so we can better look into this?

    Best, Marnix
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    You can add an arpeggiator/chord memorizer in your DAW, Logic can do this, I suppose Cubase as well, so there is no need to have this feature within the Synchron Player, just my thoughts...
  • Cyril BlancC
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    @marnix said:

    Hi Cyril,

    What exactly do you mean by "setup by song like in Mainstage"?

    Would you please elaborate, so we can better look into this?

    Best, Marnix

     

    Hello Marnix

    In Mainstage you define a Patch list / song list

    Look at this video



    For each item of the Patch/song list you define the setup of your keyboard

    So when you are live you just select the song/patch, you do not have to fiddle the buttons 

    On the attached file, they use the Patch/song as an instrument selector

    I hope you are going to be compatible with NI NKS 😉 it will be so helpfull for playing live

    With my band we are not using VSL because it is too complex to use it live, With VMO and NKS it will much more simple

    Thanks

     

    Cyril
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    O

    Hi,

    I downloaded Vienna Smart Orchestra and the latest Player Software. Both installed but I am not able to run the Vienna Smart Orchestra nor to start the player. Vienna Smart Orchestra is registered in the eLicense Key. For the player, I cannot find it in the eLicense-USB-Key. Am I missing a thing here or do I need some other software or libraries to run VSO? Thanks for helping.

     

    Paul
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    O

    Oh oh well, it's running as a Plug-In right? Found it in Cubase ;)
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi Paul, 

    Yes, the Synchron Player is a plug-in "only", we decided to skip the standalone version. 

    Workaround, if you need a standalone version, is to use it in VE or VE PRO Standalone. 

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    F

    Looks like a great product!
    It would be definitely interersting for my live gigs, I'll think about it :)
  • Cyril BlancC
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    @Paul said:

    Hi Paul, 

    Yes, the Synchron Player is a plug-in "only", we decided to skip the standalone version. 

    Workaround, if you need a standalone version, is to use it in VE or VE PRO Standalone. 

    Best,
    Paul

     

    Sorry I get confuse ; VSO is not a plug-in it is a standalone app
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi Cyril, 

    Nope. 

    VSO is loaded into the Synchron Player. The Synchron Player is a plug-in. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Cyril BlancC
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    @Paul said:

    2) Can I install it on my Macpro in the studio and on my Macbook with one license ?

    => Yes, just take the key with you, as with our other products. 

    3) Do I require another dongle for my Macbook ?
    => You know how it works with our licenses. Download it once and take advantage of the portability. 

    Best,

    Paul

    With VEPRO you have 3 licenses 😉

    It is very dangerous to take a key out of the studio, they stole twice the electric chord of my rasor while I was in holiday in Mauritus LOL
  • PaulP
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    Hi everybody, 

    Just uploaded this impressive video that shows the brilliant "Crayons de Musique", performed in Logic, on 3 MIDI tracks (Ok, one is really only a few percussion hits).... 

    I can only say: BRAVO! 🎵

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    M
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    @Paul said:

    I can only say: BRAVO! 🎵

    To begin with: I totally agree with that!

    I have also a question: I see, that Guy used for solo wind instruments Vel.X. I don't hear a unnatural change from one velocity layer to another. Is that because there is just one velocity layer in this library for the solo wind instruments or does the change from one layer to another work so smoothly?
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
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    Hi, 

    The change works so smoothly 😊

    Best, 
    Paul 

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Scholz79S
    Scholz79S
    This looks very promising for me as a Live Keyboarder! I couldn't find any Details on RAM Usage or CPU Load. How much RAM does a full Orchestra Patch take? How is the CPU consumption of the Synchron Player in general, compared to Vienna Instruments? Best Regards from Berlin Steffen
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    HI Steffen, 

    We have stream-lined this one. With an SSD and a Preload size of 4096 Samples, I need 281 MB for the 18181 Samples that are loaded with the whole orchestra. 

    Of course multiple streams will tax the CPU a bit, and if you bring in Velocity Xfade, that will also "cost" a bit, but all in all, this orchestra is pretty easy to handle. 

    Comparisons with VI are hard. What would be your basis?

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    I have SE Complete, and when I installed this it offered to install with no samples. That didn’t make any sense to me, so I installed the samples anyway. Does Smart Orchestra somehow reuse the samples from SE, so I can safely delete the SO samples and get that disk space back? I only played with this for a few minutes but I think it’s brilliant, really looking forward to digging in more.
  • Scholz79S
    Scholz79S
    281MB sounds great! my basis for a comparison: making a template in Vienna Ensemble with a Vienna Instruments Instance for each Section. best, Steffen
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    So, I am a bit confused by this. Can I use the Smart Orchestra in Pro Tools to point MIDI channels to a remote VEP Server on a PC as I now use my Special Editions and Synchron Yamaha? –Or can I only run the Smart Orchestra on a local machine in a non-server instance of VEP 6?

    Are these sample libraries of equal or better quality than those of my Special Editions and Epic Orchestra? Or is the purpose of the Smart Orchestra is that of a mock-up/sketch tool, for a fast and low-CPU usage workflow?
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    M

    I'm having a problem with the Smart Orchestra.....

    Loaded up e licenser....placed the activation code and the license in on the dongle. 

    I downloaded the files, downloaded the Synchron Player, and I can't work out what to do next???

    Everything seems to be there, I just can't seem to open the player with the Orchestra inside. There are no specific instructions I can find, as to whether there is some order to make the Smart Orchestra work properly, but in my case..nothing happens, and it's annoying. 

    And there's no plug-in at all in Logic Pro X!!  

    Please help!!!

     

    By the way. I did make sure everything was up to date. I just cannot find anything that says, do 1), 2) and 3) and everything will work. We all have busy lives, and we're not all very experienced users, please bear that in mind, when writing your manuals which are supposed to support the software. Thank you.