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    @Paul said:

    When played slower and with gaps inbetween the notes, you will trigger "only" the 2 available starting notes. 

    Best,
    Paul



    Hm, it is quite strange. Yes, I noticed, that more then 2RR start to work in SY Player after 200bpm.. But:
    Why if I play on ViPro version with 100bpm I can use more RR (listen att. file - I hear 4RR in this), but if I use SY Player version with 100bpm I can not to have same? why this restriction? It seems that despite the purchase of SY player, I have to use ViPro version instead..

    And one more question. ViPro have a Humanize engine. Are you plan to make same for Synchron player?
  • PaulP
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    PaulP

    Hi Vadim, 

    How about connecting the MIDI notes?

    There is a similar restriction for VI PRO, btw. When you play staccato repetitions, connections between notes only make sense up to a certain tempo. 

    Alternation (alternative versions of a single note) is a different topic.

    Humanize is a good idea. Please stand by.

    Dion't foget to have a great sunday!

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Another User said:

    Dion't foget to have a great sunday!



    Thank you, have a nice sunday too! :)
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    You can perform the alternations at any tempo, it's just about the gaps between the notes, in a slower tempo the gaps may become to large therefor the player triggers starting notes (where two alternating variations are available). Just take care about the gaps between the notes, minimize them if necessary, and you will trigger the "performance repetitions" (8 variations).

    best
    Herb
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    @herb said:

    You can perform the alternations at any tempo, it's just about the gaps between the notes, in a slower tempo the gaps may become to large therefor the player triggers starting notes (where two alternating variations are available). Just take care about the gaps between the notes, minimize them if necessary, and you will trigger the "performance repetitions" (8 variations).

    best
    Herb

    Hi Herb!

    I think it would be VERY helpful if in the manual there was some coverage of how to get Synchron how to "behave" based on the MIDI notes themselves.  I remember a past thread where I had asked if legato behavior was affected by touching vs overlap vs long overlap notes.  Or maybe a video tutorial?
  • PaulP
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    PaulP

    Hello Stephen, 

    There are not too many rules: With PERFORMANCES articulations, as they were called in Vienna Instruments collections (= authentically connected notes like legato and repetitions), it's all about playing the connected note within a certain amount of time. 

    The "timer" resets after a few milliseconds (shorter times for fast articulations like staccato repetitions, longer times for slower articulations. That should help you to get an authentic start note after a certain time (imagine a trumpet player who has to start with a fresh attack instead of a connected note when the trumpet is still "activated"). 

    For Legato Blur, overlaps are the key for a smoother legato when using this fader. 

    That should be it. 

    I'll try to fit that in with an upcoming video as well. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Ok.
    I'm completely confused. for more clarity, please, answer me the following question about RR and not about a notes connection: how to get the 8 variations as claimed in manual (see attached picture) in SY version with slow tempos (100 BPM)? I can get in the ViPro version 4 variations (as claimed in manual) but SY version can make only 2 at this moment. Where are other 6? Need I make legato between notes (start of note=end of previous) for variations start to works?

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  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi Vadim, 

    Yes, the gap between notes needs to be as small as possible with slow tempos to get the recorded note transitions. 

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Great, it's work! Thanks a lot!


    Also, please check for CC controls, it seems as a bug:
    If I assign CC1 to control a velocity layers and CC2 to control a vibrato depth (as on the picture), if I move CC1 wheel both CC1 and CC2 moving identically.. also, if I moving a CC2 wheel, both CC1 and CC2 moving identically. In MIDI monitor I see, that only one CC, CC1 or CC2 going from Cubase. But in Synchron player these controllers moves as if they has been linked. What's wrong?

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  • marnixM
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    Hi Vadim,

    I can in fact reproduce this, thanks for reporting - our developers will look into it as soon as possible!

    Best, Marnix
  • marnixM
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    marnixM

    Hi Vadim,

    Looking closer into this weird behavior: what happens, if you save the project with the erronous "linked" CC assignments, close it and then reload it?

    Are the CC´s still "linked"?

    Best, Marnix
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    Hi Marnix,

    If I reload it, CC's are separated, OK!
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    This issue has also been fixed with the latest release, 1.1.1301.
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    Thanks a lot! 👍
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    Is there humanize function for a Chamber strings?

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  • PaulP
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    Hi, 

    Yes, simply select the last slot of each row and you will see it (in the latest Synchron Player). 

    How about changing that thread title? 😉

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Resurrecting an old post! I've been hapily using the old Chamber Strings in many, many projects the last 10 years. I'm considering upgrading them to the Synchonized versions, but I'm concerned after seeing this post.

    Are the issues discussed in this post still present or have there been updates in the meantime?

    Also, do I understand correctly that the SYNCHRON-ized CHAMBER STRINGS include both the old Standard as well as the Extended Library samples (but enhanced etc)?

    Kind regards,

    Carsten
  • PaulP
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    Hi Carsten, 

    Yes, humanizing is available in the Synchron Player now, and yes, the Full Library of our VI Chamber Strings is contained in the SYNCHRON-ized Chamber Strings (re-mastered, re-edited and optimized for Synchron Player). 

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Carsten Altena said:

    Also, do I understand correctly that the SYNCHRON-ized CHAMBER STRINGS include both the old Standard as well as the Extended Library samples (but enhanced etc)?

    Kind regards,

    Carsten



    As I understand, some articulations of Vi version are not presents in Sy version (see att. pic). My choice - to use Vi version with MIR.