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  • VEP & DP 9.5.1 High Sierra

    I have updated High Sierra to 10.13.1, Digital Performer to 9.5.1 ( last version compatible high sierra ), and VEP to 6.0.16502.

    When I try to instantiate VEP 6 ( audio units) in DP it crash systematically and Performer do not recognyse VEP Mas !! Big Big issue !!

    I have tried with Vienna Ensemble ( last version ) and no issue.

    Thank you to see at that.


  • Hello logodo, 

    Please send the crash report to support@vsl.co.at, we will take a look. 

    Did you try to insert VE PRO as a MAS plug-in (with all the advantages that come with MAS, described on page 65 in the VE PRO 6 manual?

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Thank you Paul for your answer,

    The problem is DP see VEP mas and VEP Audio units in his Preferences Plug ins, but when I want to instatiate an VEP audio Units it crashes !!!

    And DP NOT SEE VEP mas when I want to instantiate VEP Mas !!

    Thank you 


  • Hello legodo, 

    Please send the crash report, and include screenshots of the steps you take before the crash occurs. 

    Thanks, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    Picture 1 Here is what I see When I want to insert a VEP MAS : No MAS !!

     

    Picture 2 & 3 Here what I see when I want to insert a VEP Audio unit and DP crash :

     

     

    It not generate a crash report in the console of Mac High Sierra

    Thank you Paul

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  • Hello legodo,

    Just checkd, and everything works fine on my setup. 

    I would suggest to uninstall VE PRO with the included Uninstaller and check the Preferences in DP (page 68 in the VE PRO 6 manual). 

    Then I'd restart the computer and install VE PRO 6 again and see if the transition works better the second time around. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hello Paul,

    I did as you said and I still have the same problem. Now DP does not see the VEP audio units anymore, and when I want to reset the VEP audio units in DP preferences this one crash !! Have you done the test on High Sierra? In the same configuration on my Mac Pro with El Capitan, I have no problem !!

    I think it comes with High Sierra and it's unusable as well

    Finally VEP6 is the only plug in that makes me such problems and only on DP!

    Thank you Paul for your kindness in finding this problem !!


  • Hello legodo, 

    Yes, tested on High Sierra, with DP 9.5.73657 64 bit. Just tried again, no troubles, 

    You still didn't send us any crash reports, is that correct?

    Did you contact DP with those crashes? Any feedback?

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hello Paul, I tested with DP 9.5.1 74138 64 bit and it is not the same version as you, but the only one that works with High Sierra. That may be the problem !! I am using Mac OS High Sierra version10.13.1. I tested the same version of DP and VEP on El Capitan and there is no problem. I will also contact Motu to see what they think but I remain convinced that it comes from VEP because it is the only plug in to me this problem. In addition when there is a crash with VEP and DP, DP does not create a report in the console so that I can send it to you. 

    Best regards


  • I am getting the same problems with DP 9.5.1 and the latest version of VEP 6.... I have contacted both MOTU and VSL about this matter without much luck. I first told MOTU about this matter over a month ago and just this past week with VSL. I agree that the problem is with VEP 6 and not MOTU with MAS.


  • I think the problem is with VEP & High Sierra. Just tried running a single audio track through an empty VEP session, from Ableton Live, and it clicks and pops regardless the buffer settings. Also it randomly crashes. So many issues with High Sierra, I hope all devs will manage to sort them out during the next 6 months. I'll not update the OS next year, that's for sure, at this point macOS is the new Windows XP in terms of stability.


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    @Paul said:

    Hello legodo, 

    Yes, tested on High Sierra, with DP 9.5.73657 64 bit. Just tried again, no troubles, 

    You still didn't send us any crash reports, is that correct?

    Did you contact DP with those crashes? Any feedback?

    Best, 
    Paul

    I'm having the same issue here. Maybe this has something to do with SSD system drives being converted to APFS. If your test machine doesn't have an SSD it would still be HFS+. Do you others having problems have SSD system drive that converted?


  • Are any of you running a Fusion drive as a system drive? Those have been known to cause havoc with daw software.

     

    And for those that 'updated' to High Sierra I have to ask why? If the system was working fine on whatever OSX you had (except for ElCrapitan which is one of the worst OSX versins ever) why change? Also there is another lesson to be learned here: always have a clone backup of your system drive BEFORE mucking about with OSX updates.


  • VEPro6 is working fine with DP9.5.1 on my current rig (OS 10.10.5), but I'd like to upgrade my Mac to 10.13.1 (High Sierra). 

    However after reading this thread I'm turned off the idea!

    How is VEP 6 and DP 9.5.1 compatibility under OS 10.13.1 ?  Is this problem fixed yet ?

     

    Thx


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    @Chris T said:

    VEPro6 is working fine with DP9.5.1 on my current rig (OS 10.10.5), but I'd like to upgrade my Mac to 10.13.1 (High Sierra). 

    However after reading this thread I'm turned off the idea!

    How is VEP 6 and DP 9.5.1 compatibility under OS 10.13.1 ?  Is this problem fixed yet ?

     

    Thx

    If your system is working okay why go to High Sierra? I'm not sure that HS has been fully vetted by MOTU for use with DP9.51. What you could do is to partition your system drive and put HS on the new partition. Make sure you have a clone of your system BEFORE doing that though. Carbon Copy Cloner is the tool I use for such work. Makes a fully bootable clone as well as also creates a rescue partition; ignore any advice you might get on another forum about clones to the contrary.

     

    Or you could pull out your current system drive if possible, put in a blank drive and put HS on that. That way you have an untouched system drive for when things go south.

     

    Either way around for if/when you do decide to go to HS do it as a clean install and not over the top of Yosemite even though Apple says that's the way it's supposed to be done. And for the love of all that is audio do NOT use Migration Assassin (aka Migration Assistant) to bring stuff over. Clean install everything and that way you won't or shouldn't have gremlins leftover from your old Yosemite install.


  • I have exactly same problem as logodo.

    I have just bought the latest macbook pro with High Sierra pre-installed.

    My DP 9.51 and the latest VEP6 which was updated a week ago still have a critical problem.

    Motu says it's a problem from VEP6...

    Any idea?

    Thanks!

     

    Nick,


  • This has been going on a long time with VEP, MOTU and HS.... MOTU thinks is VEP's problem.  I'm not too optimistic this will be solved anytime soon....


  • I’m in the same boat. VEP and motu are not playing nicely.. I’m on a new iMac pro so I can’t down grade the system. I pay that much for a computer to be able to take advantage of the power of vsl and other instrument plug ins and I can’t use my system!. I hope this is fixed soon. This is killing me.

  • OMG~~ So your new Imac pro is just for Safari? This is so crazy... I am also planning to get Imac pro but still waiting for this problem to be fixed. Many DP users use VEP and UAD.. and i cannot believe that we cannot use these major software in High Sierra... I have been loyal DP users for 20 years and I don't feel good these days....

  • Well I understand that these updates take some time.... But it's been a while now... I hope the update will be coming out soon. Especially since High Sierra and DP 9.5 work great together. Much snappier interface and processing IMHO! Looking forward!!!

    Greetings
    Urs