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  • Performance tool problems - please help

    first, what i have:

    I recently purchased Epic Horns. I also have the orchestral cube, first edition, with the DVD update installed. I do not have the performance set.

    I run gigatstudio 160 v2.5 on a carillon built PC. I run Digital Performer on a mac with all the necessary midi peripherals to connect the two systems.

    My midi controller is a Fatar SL 880.

    second, what i've done:

    I installed and registered Epic Horns and downloaded and installed and authorized the performance tool. I now have access to Repitition, Alternation, and Legato modes.

    I routed the performance tool to recieve midi from my sequencer via a midi interface. and no problems. I routed the out of the performance tools midi matrix to the gigastudio port 1 input. Again, no problems.

    next, I went in to the hardware settings of giga and disabled the input of port 1, which would have expected signal from my sequencer's midi interface (a suggestion i saw on a post here) Again, everything is routed correctly -- signal is leaving the outs as it should, and is entering the ins as expected.

    third, what happens:

    a) repitition mode.

    flawless. I love it and wish I had bought this earlier.

    b) alternation mode.

    again, perfect. everything works beautifully.

    c) legato.

    i play a note phrase, and as my finger releases the last key, a low note on the keyboard triggers and holds for no apparent reason. I stop, click the offending note with the mouse on the giga screen, and the signal stops. I repeat the procedure, and it happens again. This time I ignore the low, sustained note, and keep playing. This time, i release the last note of my phrase, and another note triggers and holds -- this time a half step above the first one. now both are sustaining together. I repeat this procedure again, and another 1/2 step higher a new drone begins. Now I have a low C, C#, and D rumbling at the bottom of the FH range, and I click each of the notes to disable them.

    This behavior is exhibited in Epic Horns, as well as in the performance legato patches I recieved as part of the orchestral cube, first edition update DVD.

    I have tried to troubleshoot this myself, but no luck. I have searched the posts, and do not see what I am experiencing. I have read the manuals, and looked for the answer myself, but cannot see anything relavent.

    Please help me solve this little problem -- i'm sure its simple enough.

    thanks,

    james

  • Hi James,

    thanks for the detailed description, that really helps a lot.

    Obvious guesses first:

    Do you use the HOR-Legato for the Epic Horns? => We applied a different mapping scheme here... To activate it, you need to have registered your Epic Horns and you have to go through the activation process again.

    Do you load the corresponding settings for your Performance Legatos? That´s important to limit the playing range => could be the reason for the strange sounds... Tool Presets are available in the download area of our user area.

    When you deactivated the MIDI Inports of GS, did you press apply?
    => Load a perf-leg_glissando patch, it is easiest to hear whether Legato Mode works or not (If it doesn´t, you will only hear strange glissando sounds that go into a sustained note)

    It could also be a MIDI loop, but from what you describe, I can´t see where it could come from....

    Can´t wait to hear your report.

    Best wishes, Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Obvious guesses first:

    Do you use the HOR-Legato for the Epic Horns? => We applied a different mapping scheme here... To activate it, you need to have registered your Epic Horns and you have to go through the activation process again.


    I went through the activation process before I bought epic horns, and then again when I bought it. The first time around I only gained access to performance legatos, and the second time I got repititions and alternations.


    Do you load the corresponding settings for your Performance Legatos? That´s important to limit the playing range => could be the reason for the strange sounds... Tool Presets are available in the download area of our user area.


    I don't think I did this. could you explain what these are and what they are for? I'll download them in the meantime.

    When you deactivated the MIDI Inports of GS, did you press apply?
    => Load a perf-leg_glissando patch, it is easiest to hear whether Legato Mode works or not (If it doesn´t, you will only hear strange glissando sounds that go into a sustained note)


    I did hit "apply", but that is a good guess. The performance mode seems to be working other than the strange drone-like effect.

    I wonder if my midi controller is somehow at fault. i think the ranges have shifted. the triggers are lower than my 88 note controller go, and i have to use a mouse in giga to trigger them, or sequence them in DP.


    James

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    Hi James,

    concerning your activated Modes: is HOR-Legato available? It should be.

    This is the right mode for your Horn Legato Performance.

    You will also need the Presets for the Repetition and Alternation Modes.
    For the Legato Mode there is a preset for each instrument (or ensemble),
    for the Repetition Mode there is a preset for each Performance Repetition with each instrument available.

    The presets are customized settings for each instrument, they make sure, that the playing range is correct and that the different parameters fit the instrument.

    You don´t need to worry about the keyswitches in GigaStudio in Legato or Repetition Mode AT ALL, the Performance Tool takes care of these.

    @Another User said:

    The performance mode seems to be working other than the strange drone-like effect.


    Could you please describe what your Performance Legato sounds like now? No hanging notes anymore? Did you load the HO-8_perf-leg_gliss to check?

    I´m sure we will make this work.

    Best, Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • thanks for your help! I'm in the midst of a lot of work, so I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot yet. I hope to have time this week, and then I'll get back to you.

    thanks again.

    james