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  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi everybody, 

    Thanks for your feedback, it is much appreciated!

    I thought I´d keep you in the loop, this is the current situation we´re facing: DP forces the use of MAS over AU even in an AU saved project, so it will not be able to load the data.

    In other words: MAS automatically overrides AU, resulting in project data incompatibility. A project saved with VE PRO AU should be loaded with the MAS plugin version disabled.

    The best way to migrate existing songs is to disable the MAS plugin in DP, load the project, preserve the instances, reload the project with MAS plugin enabled again, then reconnect the VE PRO instances. 

    Of course if the instances are already preserved (which we assume will be the case with most songs), reconnecting the individual VE PRO  plugins will do the trick. 

    We´re in touch with MOTU and hope that we can find a better solution for migration. 

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hello again, 

    Another update: We have decided to pull VE PRO from MyDownloads and roll back to the previous version until we have fixed the AU/MAS confusion (working on it with high pressure, and it is looking good). 

    If you´d like to roll back, please use the VE PRO Uninstaller, this way the MAS plug-in will be completely removed.
    I will let you know as soon as the update is available!

    If you´d like to accelerate beta-testing, please let me know at support@vsl.co.at, I´ll provide you with the next release candidate as soon as it is ready.

    Thanks for your understanding and patience, 

    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • Steve SteeleS
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    @Paul said:

    Hello again, 

    Another update: We have decided to pull VE PRO from MyDownloads and roll back to the previous version until we have fixed the AU/MAS confusion (working on it with high pressure, and it is looking good). 

    If you´d like to roll back, please use the VE PRO Uninstaller, this way the MAS plug-in will be completely removed.
    I will let you know as soon as the update is available!

    If you´d like to accelerate beta-testing, please let me know at support@vsl.co.at, I´ll provide you with the next release candidate as soon as it is ready.

    Thanks for your understanding and patience, 

    Paul

    Paul - We DP users support your decision to pull it to get things right! Although I've had no problems, we look forward to the next releaase. In the meantime, I'll sign up for the beta test.

    Thanks!

    Regards, Steve Steele https://www.stevesteele.com
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    I have been having an issue with my instances connecting/disconnecting, as I open projects, causing long connect times. I am guessing it has someyhing to do with the issue mentioned it this thread.

    I am going to deal with the current beta and the connect issues until there is a new release as I already reset my template to work with this outstanding, amazing, game changing, version of Mas enabled VEP!
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    @Paul said:

    We have decided to pull VE PRO from MyDownloads and roll back to the previous version until we have fixed the AU/MAS confusion (working on it with high pressure, and it is looking good).
    Paul, just to be crystal clear on this...is the (only) reason for pulling the update the "AU/MAS confusion" and - if "yes" - should those of us who perfer to work with MAS and have the update working fine, stay with it? Or were there additional reasons for pulling the update?
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi, 

    That´s the only reason. We have now added a message to the upcoming build that informs all DP users how to migrate from VST/AU to MAS with existing projects, and I´m writing an additional chapter for the VE PRO manual, with screenshots, so that the scary moment of opening a DP project with empty VE PRO instances is not such a shock. 

    You should definitely stay with the existing update if it works for you, and the next update will improve some behaviour as well (I´ll add that information to the changelog when the version is released, probably tomorrow). 

    Thanks for your patience and understanding, everybody!

    Best,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Excellent news. I have been seeing long connect times when I'm connecting to my brand new VisionDaw slave(windows7 pro) as compaired to an instance on my desktop. Is this expected behaivor?
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    @reddognoyz said:

    Excellent news. I have been seeing long connect times when I'm connecting to my brand new VisionDaw slave(windows7 pro) as compaired to an instance on my desktop. Is this expected behaivor?

     

    My desktop being osx 10.10.2
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi, 

    Please define "long connect times"... how much longer does it take than with the previous version?
    Did you change any preference settings (e.g., Ports and Audio Channels in the VE PRO Preferences?

    You can always contact me at support@vsl.co.at with more details, screenshots, DP songs in specific cases (this should be the "announcement thread").

    Thanks, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • PaulP
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    Hello everybody,

    We have decided to add an info-screen when you first open VE PRO with the new MAS version in Digital Performer, which points you to the updated Vienna Ensemble PRO 5 manual with detailed instructions on a successful migration from AU/VST to MAS.

    This version is now online in MyDownloads, with a few further improvements (check the VE PRO Changelog).

    All the best from a busy Vienna,
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    "To accelerate the creation of your new templates with the Multiport Template for Logic Pro X and with the new MAS version for Digital Performer 8, you can use the MERGE funtion in Vienna Ensemble PRO ́s FILE menu"

     

    Is this indicating that it's preferable for Digital Performer users to have one instance in your metaframe containing all your VI's vs. seperate Instances?
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi, 

    Wow, you read the manual!
    We think it´s nice to have more than just 16 instruments in one VE PRO instance, for better overview, less screen clutter, and of course to use with MIR PRO (all instruments in one room).
    In any case, that´s now possible. I always use the channel collapse function to get more channels on the screen. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    Hi Paul,

    I'm looking for clarification on this as the manual isn't that clear to me.  With the MAS version, can we now use Pre-gen mode or do we still have to set DP to run plug-ins in real-time?  The only place Pre-gen is mentioned is under "Working with Audio Input/Event Input plug-ins."

    Thanks,

    Chris
  • marnixM
    VSL Team
    marnixM

    Hello Chris,

    For smooth operation of VE Pro, running at least virtual instruments in real-time is still a prerequisite, no matter if you use the MAS, VST or AU version of the plug-in!

    We will also update the manual in this respect - thanks for reporting!

    Best, Marnix
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    Is there a MAS version of Vienna Ensemble for Windows?  Or do the DP users on Windows still need to use the VST option?

    Thanks
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP

    Hi AndrewW, 

    Yes, there is a MAS version for Windows. 

    Best, 
    Paul

    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • Steve SteeleS
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    I made a "how to connect VEPro to DP" video. It shows DP utilizing 48 MIDI ports. I also briefly touch on a couple related DP tips like MIDI Device Groups (which I plan on discussing in detail in a later video).

    I also suggest that for your main templates at least, save your instances as vi frames and the project's VEPro Server's metaframe in your DP project folder. If anything ever goes wrong with instances not loading all you have to do is select all of your vi frames in the Finder and then drag and drop them into the VEPro server window. Then in DP add VEPro server interfaces and connect. You'll see all of you instances in the server interface window ready to be connected to. Then save DP.

    Enjoy!



    Regards, Steve Steele https://www.stevesteele.com
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    hi !  All !   I have problem  with a new mas  plug-in for weight dp.  

    before you press the button (disable instrument) vienna court discharged from the project, and then when you press the button to enable it includes.

     So I built templates necessary instruments and included only those instances that are needed.

    Now when you press the button to turn off court is not unloaded

    Please see the video as it was in the old version vienna without mas plugin
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    Please see the video as it was in the old version vienna without mas plugin



    vienna ensemble version   5.3.13407
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    @thenightwatch said:

    I made a "how to connect VEPro to DP" video. It shows DP utilizing 48 MIDI ports. I also briefly touch on a couple related DP tips like MIDI Device Groups (which I plan on discussing in detail in a later video).





     

    Great tutorial!

    Thanx 😉