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    I bought Vienna Ensemble Pro 5/MIR Pro 24 a few days back and have just started exploring and using it. I will like to say that it is truely a fabulous and unique product. After using some of VSL's products (and particulatly MIR pro) and going through their manuals/tutorials, I truly get a sense that they are a labour of love and passion rather than merely software based products. Just one unrelated question. I have heard some good recordings create a sense of vertical dimension apart from width and depth. For example solo vocals being quite above the plane of the speakers while other instuments are below it. How does one create that effect using the available software tools/effects? Eagerly waiting to dig deeper into MIR/Ensemble
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    How will your target audience realize this dimension?

    Are we talking IMAX North screen center channel?

    Perhaps a more realistic 7.1 for front height speakers?

    Good old fashioned traditional Stereo?

    Give this a try:    Vienna Suite / Compressor / General Purpose / Bring Overheads To Life...
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    You can Demo Vienna Suite for 30 days... It may work for you.
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     Hi Mike

    Thanks for your response.

    I was talking about plain 2 channel stereo. I have heard some good recordings give that effect. On such recordings, it essentially feels that the music is playing on a soundstage rather than through speakers (the speakers disappear sonically). The effect is very subtle though and the vertical dimension I am talking about is probably a foot above the speakers. Choirs however have a more exagerated effect with a greater sense of height.

    Of course, I am digressing from the main point of this particular forum
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    Vienna Suite / Compressor / General Purpose / Bring Overheads To Life...
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    VSL Team
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    Hi Mike, I think AFG is referring to a phenomenon known as Head-related Transfer Function (HRTF) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function. 

    BTW: While the Ambisonics format MIR Pro relies on would be perfectly capable of supplying Z-axis channels (opposed to "just" X/Y planar decoding), we have decided to omit this option for now, because hardly anybody has a monitoring system that fits the requirements for true 3D-sound. It would have made things seem to be more complicated than they actually are.

    And while we're at it: The "Bring Overheads To Life"-Preset settings for the Vienna Suite Compressor were supplied by mastering-guru Martin Scheer - they are meant to be used for mixing drums rather than to push signals to the ceiling. ;-D

    Kind regards,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    Okay Dietz,

    I'm going to ask that you remove your lab coat and put down the science project for a moment.   [:P]

    What if anything in that Wiki Article do you think will help the poster reach his goal?

    On the other hand, regarding (Bring Overheads To Life),

    what if anything about this effect will prevent the poster from realizing more vertical space?
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     Hi Dietz and Mike

    Thanks for the responses from both of you. Did'nt want to start a debate. I don't have Vienna Suite so I can't try that approach out. Probably the reverb in MIR would create the effect I am looking for - need to try it out.

    I am talking about a normal stereo recording process here.  Probably it is got to do with mike placments also. But this is one subtle dimension that adds to the reality of a recorded piece.

    Regards

    Adil
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    Afg,

    I assure you Dietz and I are having fun....

    But once again, you can Demo Vienna Suite for free for 30 days.