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Hi Herb and dbudde,
I'm very happy that you wrote this post dbudde. Last week, my (real) grandpiano was tuned. As my piano techncian is very very good (one of the best in Canada), I asked him to listen to my Vienna Imperial (virtual) piano. He was impressed by the sound quality and timbral richness. But he suggested that someone tune that piano in the F5 region…
Will a fix be possible, Herb?
Thanks a lot.
CB
Hello John-Paul,
@jpgandy said:
No, there isn't an audible change in sound that I can hear if I've hit a key without pedal and then depress/raise the pedal after. John-Paul
good news for the workaround.
I spent some weeks on the countryside, just walking, breathing and playing the piano (a somewhat detuned, but real piano).
I now know that I'd like to return to real instruments and real people, finding that, the closer I come to imitate instruments and musicians by computers the more I realize, I'll never reach them - at least not with having the same sweet flow I get in the real world - and for that flow I am willing to accept flaws.
So, the question is how to draw back. And within what time. What to leave, what to take with me.
I'll leave some final thoughts, comments and some sort of present regarding a workaround:
1) You could check whether ProTools offers real-time midi-controllers/converters.
If yes, what you do manually after a recording you could instruct ProTools to do in real time with those midi-controllers/converters.
That's the basic concept of Logic's environment: To set up controllers/transformers which manipulate the incoming and outgoing midi-stream.
2) You could give the last Windows version of Logic (5.5.1) a try.
I composed a workaround for Logic which works in real time and requires no editing of the recorded track.
I created and tested this workaround on Logic Windows 5.5.1.
See http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/31305/199407.aspx#199407 for details.
Sebastian
P.S.:
Some notes on the Windows-version of Logic:
In most PC configurations one would use Logic only as a midi-sequencer; that means you'd need another program (in your case e.g. ProTools) to record audio data and to host Software-Instruments which would be played by Logic.
A connection between Logic and ProTools would be established by virtual Midi cables like "Maple Midi Tools".
Hi John-Paul I honestly can't believe that there's only a handful of pianists who recognise the fault with F5 -- I find it sticks out like a sore thumb. Just thought I'd give you guys some support, I figure the more people talk about it the more chance there is of getting it fixed. Chris
I second. And - after reading the whole thread - i am surprized by the ignorance of the - in all other instances I could remember so helpful and understanding - VSL Team.
Some natural and therefore desired imperfections? Come on, michi & Herb. It is obvious that most of the pedal-down f5 samples (the tuning is indeed ok at high velocities) were recorded during a different recording session than the dry f5 and the piano tuner for the later session did a bad job on this particular key. This is nothing to be ashamed of, but also nothing one should defend as deliberate feature.
I am officially asking for a library update with this note corrected.
I am inclined to support the position of Vienna, which is a position of principle, a general line.
I think this kind of special impecfection, many tools are available in a mixing studio. Personally, I think this is a case for Melodyne after MIDI files are transferred to the audio file.
