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  4. I don't get it... VEP5 and Logic = Silence
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    Did you see my reply above that had the solution for the i/o plugin?  Give that a shot and see how it performes on your setup.  

    I'll do whatever you guys want to help get to the bottom of this.  I will clarify that I amusing a dedicated network for VEP too so there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the setup, just strange behavior.

    Chris 
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    I've got Logic driving VE Pro 5 with notes ok but how do we automate? I've got the Event input on another Channel assigned to the VE instance but where on the VE server is "Learn" or "Assign" for either CCs or the "Vienne Ense Param" values in the Channel Automation?

    The manual is not clear on this; any chance of a walk through of the process? Or are we saying this is currently not working?

    I had multiple channel CC7 working on the VE channel without Event Input briefly before juddering chaos ensued. 

    Thanks

    Simon

    MBP 2.8GHz Core Duo 8GB, Logic 9.1.5
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    @C_Caouette said:

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    However, this introduced a new problem.  All is well as long as the transport ISN'T running.  Once you enter record or playback it is hit or miss if it picks up on what you are playing.  It also began to cause CPU spikes in Logic which I've never gotten before with VEP...fix one problem get another.  

    EDIT:  Another pass and I didn't have any more spikes, but there sounds like a 'doubling' of the sound too (you can hear the phasing) during playback.  It isn't there when the transport isn't running.  All I did was record onto this one track.

    EDIT 2:  This new issue is only on the EVENT INPUT tracks.  Using the track with just the VEP plugin works as expected.

    Hello Chris ,

    I haven't downloaded/installed VEP5 yet ,  so I'm speculating here , but this 'doubling'  effect &  the 'spikes' sound like a MIDI-Loop ,

    something that also occurs with Logic when using IAC-MIDI-Busses .

    So maybe the same issue occurs here too ?

    Best

    Gerd

    ( For those who are interested how to get rid of the MIDI-Loop issue when using IAC Busses with Logic I've described that a while ago

    in another forum : http://www.soundsonline-forums.com/showpost.php?p=119935&postcount=3  )
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    Hi Gerd,

    I wish it were that simple.  The issue is much deeper than that and only pertains to the Event Input plugin.  

    Chris
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    I have the same problem here. can someone from VSL please post what exactly we have to do in Logic to get this running properly?
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    @Karel said:

    This is due to the fact that Logic disables tracks unless its transport is playing. I'm not sure anything can be done about this.

    actually for me it's the other way around, if the transport is not playing I can get sound on the midi channels assigned via the VEP Event Input, once I hit play or record, I don't get anything.
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    +1, I'm holding back the upgrade because of this (as a matter of fact, I paid for the upgrade because of this...)
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    Last night I thought that I solved the problem... but not,  VEP5 misses one of each three notes. What a disaster...

    I would like an official answer here, isn't going to be any repair or update? or... Can we start to think we've spent the money in vain?

    It's really frustrating spend my time (very sparse, like everyone here) in evaluating  bugs/problems that have been treated as "Logic normal behavior" and make useless the update to VEP5 , in my case. I'm not a beta tester, I'm musician. I don't expect to buy a new saxophone and discover that I can only play half the notes because its build in this way.

    For me this is misleading advertising

    Again, sorry for my english and hard words. Perhaps better to spend time studing english that trying solve VEP5 / Logic problems... 
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    I am bumping this in hopes that someone at VSL can recreate the problem and let us know what's happening.

    Chris
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    I hoped to save CPU power:

    - the master got to calculate more Altiverbs

    - the master gets back a lot of audio channels

    If the Event Input would work, I could put all Strings into ONE VE Pro, because I use different MIDI ports. No, I got for every instrument (Vl1, Vl2, Vla...) one VE Pro instance and 3 audio channels. But with VE Pro 5 and don't see any possibility to reduce the problems, audio channels oder CPU power. Sad.
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    The word "silence" in the thread's title is becoming curiouser and curiouser, as some might say — where are the VSL staff's comments on this issue?
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    Important enough...

    Up!
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    We're still investigating these issues and looking for ways to improve the situation. Thanks for reporting this and apologies for the inconvenience.
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    We'll wait, no better option...
  • K
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    After more testing in Logic 9.1.5 I can say that it works exactly as intended. Perhaps you're not putting the Event Input plugin track to Live mode properly. The proper procedure is: insert Utility->I/O plugin as insert effect in the same track as the Event Input plugin, set its Output to 1-2, then Bypass it.

    I did get the described behavior once when changing the Process Buffer Range mid project. A simple start/stop of the transport fixed it immediately though. I will look into this small transition issue for the next update.

    If it still behaves erratically for you, it would help to send some screenshots of your Logic preferences to  for me to look at.
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    Thank you. It's been my mistake, to set the output of the I/O utility not to output 1/2. But now I got another problem. I got a big latency. Just when playing with the Event PlugIn. When I play VE Pro Slave directly, there is now latency.
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    Hi Karel,

    My problem with this is that the manual is not clear, so can you give a walkthrough from scratch of how to automate a multichannel instance of VEP5 in Logic. e.g multichannel volume automation of the VSL instruments loaded in VEP5.

    Also where in VEP5 is the Assign or Learn Function for the Parameters that appear in the Logic Automation List?

    Thanks,

    Simon.
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    OKay I will try it but it seemed that you also have to put an i/o on the VEP plugin track as well to keep it in live mode.  The addition of an i/o on the Event track didn't do anything...but will try agian.  My issue was that it worked when the transport wasn't running but failed with it was.

    Chris
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    In my case: NO sound if not playing Logic project
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    Hello Karel, I think I figured it out. If you multiple tracks with VEP event input plug ins assigned to the same instance, you need to make sure that all of them have an I/0 plug in inserted and bypassed. If you forget to do so for just one of the tracks , none of them will work properly. this seems to have fixed it for me.