Problem with samples sounding unusual with midi keyboard playback in Cubase 5, and not with mid...

[Steve Martin]

Hi to the forum,

I am having a really unusual problem with Cubase 5. I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. and I noticed that when playing in a string passage that uses the string runs from the Orchestral String runs violins extended library, that when I am recording and playing the samples on my midi keyboard, it sounds fine, but then when I go to play the passage back, the string runs sound quite 'nasal'.

[I should make the point that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the samples themselves].

I thought maybe I had changed some settings in Cubase, so I did a system restore to a couple of days ago, and then tried to see if there was any difference, and there was none, and I also downloaded the latest cubase 5 update, and still no change in the problem.

I then undid the system restore, and made sure I did the Cubase update again, but still the same problem.

I thought I was maybe imagining things, so in the end I made a music file in Sibelius 6 with an orchestral string SE matrix, and then added a string runs cell to it. I then exported the sibelius file as a midi file, and then used the same matrix as I had in Sibelius 6, and they playback was fine.

I don't know what is causing this. I have looked at the velocity of the notes in the played in one, and changed them to all 127 and still no change. It's a little baffling as you can definitely hear the difference, even though it is the same cubase project playing back with the same samples - except it's me physically playing them in for the second extract you hear.

If you listen to the mp3 example you hear the Sibelius 6 file that was exported as a midi file first, and then the second example is myself doing an approximate copying of what was in the midi file, by playing another copy of the reconstructed matrix I used for the Sibelius file.

http://www.box.net/shared/uf1cc9va64

I'm not sure what's causing this. Has anyone come across this problem before?

thanks heaps if there is any possible comments or ideas on this.

best,

Steve.

[andi]

Hi Steve!

This sounds like some "flanging" effect. It could be caused by triggering the same sample two (or more) times within a very short amount of time. I would check if two MIDI events (notes) are placed on top of each other in the key editor.

Best regards,
Andi

[Steve Martin]

Hi Andi,

thanks for that. I should check this out, as I noticed when I was editing another score where I was playing in the notes, that when I moved another note, there appeared to be another note left when I moved it.

Thanks so much for that advice. I'll check if this is what is happening.

best,

Steve.

[Steve Martin]

Hi Andi,

yes - your information solved the problem - many, many thanks for that!!

I discovered that by selecting a note, and then moving it up in the Cubase midi track, that there was still another note just under the original note. I don't know how this is happening when I play in a live part.

Thanks again for your answer and the very helpful information.

best regards,

Steve