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Of the 3 positions available there is no doubt about it that I love Player the most. The interesting concept behind it is perhaps that I believe I am tainted from being the actual performer over the years. It just sounds natural to my ears to have the sound coming from the players perspective. Even though perhaps the listener position yields a slightly different sound, I love the fact that I can give to them as close to exactly what I hear as possible. It makes for me the ability to do very personal and intimate recordings. I have only had this piano a few days and I am just blown away how good it sounds compared to all my other pianos. I can't wait to hear what it's going to sound like once I place it into MIR and align it properly.
I do have some velocity issues to resolve though which is another issue though. I need to figure out how to map velocity curves into this piano as I can't find a curve in the software. I would love to improve the dynamic performace of my Keyboard into the software more closely. I think it would instantly raise the quality another leap and bound.
Maestro2be
@Dietz said:
A sidenote: Actually there are much more than 93*100 samples for Vienna Imerial. Due to sympathetic resonances, repetition- and release samples there are up to 1200 samples per key: -> http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/478/1701/1703/1306.htm
The most astonishing thing for me is, how it's possible to compress that huge content in 50 GB only without any audible losses. It's a very very convincing sound, so the torture for the recording team (can't be funny, I don't believe so) was it worth. Incredible!
Frank
@doubleattack said:
The most astonishing thing for me is, how it's possible to compress that huge content in 50 GB only without any audible losses.
... yes, that's one if the great things in the background that the VSL developers were able to achieve. It's lossless compression (opposed to data-reduction like MP3, for example).
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BTW - there will be a link to the MIR-Project of "Sentimental Mood" soon. Our IT-chief became suspicious when I asked him to host the file ... 😄
Best,
@Dietz said:
...Our IT-chief became suspicious when I asked him to host the file ... 😄
For giving away knowlegde? That's apprehensible. It 's really a unselfish invitation of you. But: Be able to read something means not be able to be a Writer.
But if he's afraid henceforth I'm working only nothing but vsl and vi, whilest he's sweating blood to solve some negligible issues with some kind of german software, you can becalm him too. There's no connection. I'm not open to bribery, v e r y forbearing only.
Kind regards
Frank
Download done! Totally rapt, will check it out this evening!! Thanks so much!!!
Kind regards
Frank
Is the mistake mine? Did un-zip the file (with win-rar) but it has 1 KB only and MIR - consequentially - is giving the message "can't load file_name of the file_" if I try it to load.
I remember for some similar issues in another case, but don't know anymore, what I did exactly to solve the problem. Do I have to go to vsl-manager for decompressing?
So any help much appreciated. Sorry for my inconvenincing.
Frank
Good to know, don't worry. Didn't you wrote something of a suspicious chief...[:D]
Frank
Second try! [<:o)]
It's a weekend, that's why I couldn't simply replace the file on our server. Please use this YouSendIt-link to download the fixed file in the meantime (the link will expire in one week). It's packed into a ZIP-archive and should be around 99 kB once it is opened.
I was going back to the original MIR Project file for that, and there was indeed all the processing I was talking about before (some compression and EQing on the piano, more processing on the bass). I got confused by the fact that I tried other versions in other Venues later, but the one you all know it the one I liked most.
Let me know it this works now.
Kind regards,
What a kindly service, Dietz! Thanks so much again! Download done and it seems to work, after I've open it shows 99KB.
So I will load and look in it sunday morning and will be all ears. (And will give a feedback, of course.)
Have a nice weekend and best wishes!
Frank
After the little inserts back to the proper meaning of this thread: Did load the file without any problems - and very a m a z i n g !!
First, I was surprised about using double EQing - inside vienna imperial and with the inserted EQ. And the EQ settings! Don't want to go deeper in the details, but that balanced using of low frequencies of room with the light extenuated brillance in the c - c1 octave makes the difference, specially for this kind of piano jazz, because this oktave is used for the compings. So you got with this mix the very fine contrast between the chords ans single melody-lines in the higher ranges (more light and airy) with the lower compings (warm and dark) and you got fore- and background like two different instruments for the piano only. YES! - I aimed at that sound (and never got t h i s one)! So these file are very very useful for me and it is a real gift, Dietz! So thanks so much again, it's not taked for granted.
I saw the lot of insert tweaks for the bass too, and of course the using of the classical drum preattunements in MIR for the jazz drum.[:O]
But will have a closer look to the rhythm section later this week. I'm impatient to do this! [:)]
Kind regards
Frank
Great to hear that it worked out finally! Phew! :-)
The EQ-settings inside the Vienna Imperial player are just "my" standard setting - I use this most of the time, simply because there are a few resonances I don't like to hear. Only the EQ in the channel strip is for shaping sound. I would do pretty much the same with any real recording of a piano, too - the big difference is that in case of the Vienna Imperial I just had to do the "surgical" part just once ;-D ...
The processing of the bass looks a bit overdone, but considering that the PowerPan just reverses the left and right channels it's actually mostyl common stuff. The MultiBand is the exception - like wrote above I used it mainly to tame the fret-noises, as they disturbed the sense of distance.
Please - don't take the processing of the Jazz Drums too serious. I was just fooling around a bit and simply kept what I liked. No secret Master Plan in the background. ;-)
I like to emphasize that the _real_ magic still happens in the room, i.e. within MIR. Finding a good spot for any instrument in a room or on a stage makes everything so much easier, and with MIR you _have_ the choice. ("... die halbe Miete", as we say in German).
... and in the end all of this just works because it's a marvelous piece of music, and it was masterfully performed by Christoph Unterberger.
Kind regards,
Thanks for explanations!
... and in the end all of this just works because it's a marvelous piece of music, and it was masterfully performed by Christoph Unterberger.
And yes again, the sound-settings are blooming by courtesy of this two perfectly working hands!
Frank
Dietz,
I tried to start a new project using the sentimental template you provided us a while back. It's is telling me now that I don't have the room installed for this, however every room I own and have opens fine. Could this be a symptom of the upgraded room packs and software?
Thanks kindly as I am in need of this sound.
Maestro2be
