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Hi
Hope someone have an answer to this.
I have ordered a giant computer at XI Machines with the purpose of running everything on 1 PC - I have a couple of MR816's for soundcards and will have Cubase 5.5 and MIR running on this new machine.
As I understand the MR816's are not ASIO multiclient, and this is needed to run both Cubase and MIR ??
as soon as you have the possibility to choose between different digital outputs, e.g. from your onboard sound card, you can route the audio signal from MIR with a optical cable to cubase (as an external instrument or audio input) and make your final mix there. afaik there is no software way yet to solve this problem except if your sound drivers allow internal routing.
I use a RME HDSPe AIO card and need to do the "optical cable trick" too. There i use the ADAT output channels 1 and 2 in MIR and ADAT input channels 1 and 2 in Cubase. Works fine.
Hi Kambiz
Not shure I get the ADAT solution - is that not still the same driver? - so two applications(clients) would still compete the same single-client ASIO driver ?
But I just found this in the Cubase forum:
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=101066
Its a multiclient wrapper - are going to test it.
txh
p.s Got your PM with link - will comment on PM later :-)
Bjarne, you're right, for the setup you have in mind you will need audio hardware with
a) 64 bit ASIO drivers and
b) multi-client capability
The wrapper you have found was mentioned several times already, but I seem to remember that it wasn't 64-bit compatible...? :-/
Kind regards,
well - basically I´m in a world of shit then. - Driver for MR816 comes in 64-bit yes, but not multiclient.
Just spend 10G´s on a monster machine - and spend others buying MR816s earlier...
Now I am in a good mood !![:@]
Will MIR pro have some sort of routing into the host sequencer, so it does not need to access the driver itself?
You know - only two years ago, when MIR finally found its recent form, the idea of running it side-by-side with a full-blown DAW on the same computer was a bit ... uhm ... adventurous. 😉 MIR was always meant to be used as stand-alone application on a dedicated computer.
What you _could_ do now (without spending too much money) is to get one of those inexpensive USB2-stereo-interfaces*) for the exclusive use of MIR. Connect its digital outs to the MR816s, and you're done.
*) look for 64-bit ASIO drivers and latency numbers that support powers of 2 (i.e. 64 samples, 128, 256 etc.)
[...] Will MIR pro have some sort of routing into the host sequencer, so it does not need to access the driver itself?
If everything works out as planned - yes.
Hi Dietz - good suggestion
Already an Echo audio interface hanging around - also with s/pdif, so yes I can use one of them until MIR pro arrives :-)
Think they are FW - but fortunately I have 2 FW in my new machine, so 1 for the chain of MR816s and 1 for my Echo - just need to check for 64-bit drivers.
Not sure how this will affect latency and stability though?
thx alot
"Not shure I get the ADAT solution - is that not still the same driver? - so two applications(clients) would still compete the same single-client ASIO driver ?"
Dietz' solution is almost the same (and he is the man who knows everything about MIR ;))
buy a cheap usb card with digital out and good asio driver and set this as output on MIR. or maybe your mainboard has digital out (herefore easily use asio4all driver!)
now in cubase you can use a digital input of MR816 (as audio input or virtual instrument). the only thing now missing is a digital cable between the devices ;)
btw: hi again! i would love to see your monster computer specs :)
My upcoming machine is basically the biggest XI-Machine but expanded with some neat things:
2x 2.93 GHz Intel® Xeon X5670 2x6Cores
48 Gb Ram
150 Gb Raptor sysdisk for music, 150 Gb raptor sysdisk for SAP and MC Visual Studio etc. Not dual boot, but as swap disk.
2x1Tb Raid 0 for Audio
3x256Gb Crucial RealSSD for sample libraries ( VSL Cube, Imperial and Ivory )
Hardware raid controller SAS/ATA 6Gb/s for the SSD
1 Tb HD for other libraries
HD5450 Eyefinity Graphic card
Extra TI firewire card
Everything is passive cooling and dampend.
Should be able to handle just about anything I throw at it - in fact I feel obliged to share that kind of computer power, so I am going to join some research networks, so that they may use it whenever I am not.
I am looking forward to get it [:D]
yes - its a bit insane I know.
I was just getting tired of investing in seperate machines, messing about with networks, MOL etc. - so I decided to get everything on 1 machine and get it right this time. So I hope this beast will deliver for years to come, years where I have a stable workstation and no worries :-)
Wow, that machine is a _real_ beast! May I use it for testing ....? [A]
[...] or maybe your mainboard has digital out (herefore easily use asio4all driver!)now in cubase you can use a digital input of MR816 (as audio input or virtual instrument). the only thing now missing is a digital cable between the devices 😉 [...]
Don't laugh - I tried this already, and it works like a charm! Actually it's an absolutely valid solution, with two BIG exceptions:
1. Most built-in soundcards don't allow for external clocking, thus they have to be the clock-master in a setup like that. You bet that its cheap clock is worse (jitter-wise) than anything used for pro (or even semi-pro) audio systems.
2. Many built-in soundcards use a fixed sample rate of 48 kHz. They _will_ play 44.1 kHz audio streams, but only on behalf of real-time resampling. This might not be the best possible way to listen to a delicate VSL/MIR-mix. 8-)
mnm - I plan to use an Echo Audiofire 4 - routing MIR to this and then run the s/pdif into one of my MR816.
However the Echo does not have ext.clock in, so I suppose it has to be the master, and sync the MR816 via the s/pdif ?
Man, this are going to spell trouble, I know it, I know it, I know it....
Why oh, why did I not listen to the little voice in my head: Buy RME Buy RME
