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  • By reading the Vienna Imperial's manual, I see there is a "2sus" parameter. It is described this way:

    "The 2sus Feature increases the realism of sustained notes that are pressed before the sustain pedal is activated."

    I can't understand if this describes something similar to a repedalling or the half-pedal. Or, maybe it is just some type of sympatetic resonance without retriggering the key. Someone more knowledgeable than me can try to explain?

    Paolo


  • Hi Paolo, 

    This is best explained by listening, I think: Play a note without sustain, then press the sustain pedal. Do this with any without the 2sus feature enabled and you should hear the difference. 

    Best,
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • Thank you, Paul. I see what you mean. It's the halo around a note, that is created by pressing down the damper pedal while the note is also pressed.

    So, I renew my hope that the Vienna Imperial is not abandoned, and can see a refresh with the missing half-pedal (and possible repedalling?) feature – maybe with the algorhythms developed for the new CFX – to continue being the best, more resonant Viennese piano, even for the forthcoming years.

    Paolo


  • Hi Paolo, 

    To be honest, I don't think that an update for the Vienna Imperial is in the cards anytime soon. 

    But I agree, the Vienna Imperial is a GREAT piano. 

    Best, 
    Paul


    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
  • On a second thought, I think that 2sus may be considered what is elsewhere called "repedaling".

    Paolo


  • Another thought on the Vienna Imperial issues.

    - 2sus is not equivalent to repedalling. It's the freeing of the strings while a key is kept pressed, and not the resonance retriggered during the note release.

    - In case the piano can be revised, I would be perfectly fine with half-pedal just increasing the release lenght, with lower notes proportionally longer than the others. One, or even two degrees of this simulated half-pedal would create a credible effect when in need of that subtle halo in some pieces of authors like Chopin or Debussy.

    Please, VSL, despite being a great step for the playing humanity, I'm sure it is just a small step for your great software engineers! º‿º 

    Paolo


  • Ok, I took some time to explore the various pedal combinations. What I found is that there is a sound of half pedal – only, it is not used!

    Turn 2sus on. Play a note, and release it. Immediately press the damper pedal, before the note release ends.

    What you can hear, is a halo that sounds nearly exactly as the half pedal: a subtle resonance, a distant sound remebering the damper pedal.

    It would be just a matter of scripting this effect, to have a convincing half pedal simulation.

    I'll say it again: Vienna Imperial is a great piano. It takes very little CPU, and not all that space on disk. It would be great to give it a second opportunity.

    Paolo