The room impression is mindblowing!

Has to be heard with closed eyes.

P.S: Of the course the music and the realization is also top quality.

I am with Guy on this.  While to date my feelings have been generally 'uneccesary' - I can get a decent enough 'mix' with current setup and workflow.   This brilliant demo by Jay - is making me rethink this and considering MIR.

It is the equipment and learning curve that scares me the most - honestly.   Jay - what was that experience (both software and equipment) - can you give us some details.

Many thanks.

Rob

 As far as I know, Jay splitted the sections because of lack of RAM

we'll look at it, if we can merge the project to a masterfile - of course you would need a very, very powerful machine to run this project at once,

also we will check if there is any compatibility problem with the MIR project files, maybe this is caused, because Jay started working with a MIR betaversion

best

Herb

Congratulations Jay! [H] This is truely a remarkable demo for MIR.  I am now considering MIR because of this, but still need to hear more demos like this to absolutely sure.  The tempo seems a bit slow for me, as I'm use to JW's original soundtrack recording, but you did a magnificant job.  I think sometimes people forget how hard it is to do a convincing mockup of an existing well known piece, and you're brilliant at that.  This is a big step forward for MIR compared to the other demos. [:)]

-Brian

@Brian said:

P.S. What I'd really love to hear is an Altiverb version (up to the same tempo as the orginial soundtrack recording) and a MIR version with the same tempo compared to the original soundtrack recording.  Hearing all three together right next to each other would be really enlightening.

I haven't checked, but as Jay normally provides a tutorial, it should be very easy to pick a section and do your own mix.

DG

My bad......................!

Can we also download a PC computer for mac users? [;)]

Okay, oaky, you win. [:@]

better get windows 7 rather than vista if audio drivers are available/working (for video all ATI drivers work nicely on W7).

all drivers compatible to vista SP1 will also work for windows 7

christian

 ^^ i love mir :)

okay but why wont the open in mir... i mean the demo files :) ?

Actually I'm on the verge of acquiring a PC. The alternative solution as you mentioned seemed to awkward for me, which I had already attempted, but It could be because I'm not very good with these things.

 i am using a nehalem macpro with windows 7, it works

But for me the question wasn't if it would work or not, it was more, will I benefit the max from it. And from what I had read, it seems you don't, and for more massive projects and orchestration I didn't want to have that hurdle.

Thanks Dietz!  I love you guys! [:)] I love how uncompromising VSL is!  I love how you guys decide to do something, and it just doesn't matter if anyone else has every attempted it or thought of it, you guys are going find a way to make it happen.  I love that.  Thank God you guys are out there to combat against the cinematic product drive ("monkey at a keyboard mentality") of some other sample libraries.  I believe in the VSL mission, to make the most realistic sounding sampled orchestra.  I believe VSL has the most talented team possible for that goal.  That's why I'm with you guys for the long hall (pun intended [:)]).  MIR is definitely 100% true to the spirit of VSL, its uncompromising and groundbreaking.  MIR is absolutely the most advanced reverb/mixing software ever built period.  I have no doubt it will be the new standard to which all other convolution reverbs will have to reckon with at some point.  Throw in VE PRO on top of all this, and it just adds that much more to the reason why you guys are my go to company for sampled orchestra products.

However, as revolutionary as MIR is, the first two video demos were....to be honest....disappointing.  It's just the sound wasn't as revolutionary as I knew the product itself was.  If only Jay's demo had been the first demo then I probably wouldn't have my current mental block against MIR, and feel the need for direct comparisons with Altiverb all the time. Jay's demo really proves the realistic room quality of MIR.  The room sounds practically real, Altiverb can't touch that.  However, I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is something more realistically satisfying with the timbre of the instruments in Jay's Rite of Spring with Altiverb compared to the E.T. MIR demo.  I would like to try MIR myself to test this, but then I'd have to buy Windows Vista to do so, not to mention buy a whole new $1600 computer to run the same size orchestra as my current setup.  So then to buy MIR is another roughly $1000.  So in my mind MIR needs to sound $2600 better than Altiverb for me to break out the bucks at this moment.  In fact, its probably worse than that, because I'd feel better thinking MIR is $3600 better than Altiverb, and that I'm getting it for a deal by only paying $2600.

I see MIR like Frankenstein.  You guys created the monster, but I'm willing to bet that you're still learning things about your Frankenstein.  Even though you are the current experts, I think you guys are going to be better experts on MIR in a couple of years than you are right now.  In the future, when every one else is just starting to get on the multiple-impulse response train, you guys are going to be so far ahead of them.  So in a couple of years when it comes to doing a major upgrade and I'm looking at Altiverb 7 or MIR, I'll probably go with MIR.  I'm not quite ready to buy right now, but you never know if you keep putting out demos like Jay's....I might change my mind. [;)] Still, no matter what I'm with you guys for the long haul, and I can't wait to hear future updates and demos! [:)]  I love you guys! [:P]

-Brian

P.S. You're right Dietz, there isn't always a right and wrong tempo in music...it is an art after all, but would someone please listen to track 17 (about 4:25 in) on the E.T. original soundtrack recording and tell me they like the slower tempo better.....honestly.....you like slower tempo....really???? [;)]

Hi Dietz,

Can you have a look at the MIr files for this. They won't open for me and I would love to see how Guy set up MIR.

Thanks

 Hi!

This problem is already fixed - new files will be available soon!

Florian

Great Stuff! My respect to Jay!

@Dietz said:

BTW - regarding the tempo of the "Adventures": As far as I know Jay referred to a version conducted by Williams himself, so it might be a matter of taste. But you could take the MIDI-tutorials and do the piece in a tempo of your liking, though. 😉

Listen to some of J.W.'s filmscores and compare to concert versions conducted by himself: He often tends to be faster in the concert versions by a lot (lack of tempo awareness? - I don't think so 😊 ).

E.T is a special one: He couldn't match the cue points for some larger scenes so Spielberg let him conduct musically and matched the final cut to the music afterwards - what a great director for a film musician! All that information can be found in some interviews on YouTube, in case you are interested ...

Fritz.