Congrats to VSL on the newborn (to us. I guess MIR is already five years old to you.)
Is MIR feasible on an Intel Mac running Boot Camp / Parallels with Windows 7 software?
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:-) Thanks!
Actually it`s (almost) new-born to us, too, but then we should call it "Version 3" rather than V.1 ... 8-]
One of the Beta testers had MIR running and working on Bootcamp and reported ok-ish results. (Ron, would you please recapitulate your findings ...? TIA!)
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library -
hearing distance change..this what i am lookinf for audio-post , mixing dialog,FX,ambiance or foley with MIR sound great and on the
top we always need to mix musicians stems so MIR would be a great tool but the post world use mainly ProTools on a Mac so it would
be a good move to target that big market !
regards
DaN
@DG said:
Actually it's not just a reverb. It will host all your VSL samples,To me the really groundbreaking thing about MIR is that it creates real depth in terms of instrument positioning....You really get a 3D impression of an orchestra playing, if you move around an instrument on the stage in a MIR setting, it will not only move left or right in terms of speaker position, but you hear distances change... hard to describe.... but the stunning thing is complete realism of the actual change of timbre you get when moving around an istrument on the virtual stage...
It is just amazing....
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@Dietz said:
One of the Beta testers had MIR running and working on Bootcamp and reported ok-ish results. (Ron, would you please recapitulate your findings ...? TIA!)
Dietz, my pleasure:
Folks, one of my test systems was an early 2008 Mac Pro octocore 3.2 ghz with 32 gigs of ram, running Windows 7 and an RME Fireface 800, cubase 5.0.1 is running on the same computer. This system is certainly no slouch, but is a generation old.
My findings were as follows:
Buffer 128 is not really a viable option for more than a hanful of instruments. At buffer 512, I can run roughly 15-18 instruments at approximately 75% cpu consumption before clicks and pops begin (all perf-legato patches for these testing purposes). I can basically double that at 1024. Buffer set at x2. Keep in mind, however, that at 1024 w/ x2 buffer, there is some latencty. It's actually a fairly viable MIR solution for smallish-medium orchestrations, but don't expect to mockup Mahler 😉. Also, MIR's buffer should be set at x2 or above.
If someone were planning to use this kind of rig for MIR, I would definitely recommend having the Sequencer on another computer.
I'm happy to answer any questions about this kind of setup.
Best,
-Ron
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I am using Matrox Parhelia APVe graphic cards which are PCIe x16 but all I can find is that they support "DirectX / OpenGL" but not DirectX 10 specifically, so I guess that they only support DirectX 9. Seems I have to buy new graphic cards???
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in the gigastudio times i loved the millennium cards for their economical drivers and used them up to the P650 model - later we had to switch to ATI because the matrox openGL implementation was very poor ....
the Parhelia APVe has also *only* 128 MB of a somehow slow memory - i'd say give it a try at least, but since matrox doesn't mention the directX and openGL versions i'd suspect support for both beeing limited ...
christian
and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds. -
Thanks. I just wanted to ensure that MIR, at the time of installation or start-up, will not come up with a message like: "The graphics adapter you are using does not meet the requirements of this software. [Quit]"
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Awwww .. such a shame that us Mac users miss out. Oh well .. I'm still quite happy with the Vienna Convolution Reverb .. guess I'm going to have to be happy with it for a while huh :P
Just gonna have to pray for that big film project so I can afford to buy a PC that can run MIR. hehe .. I reckon you'll have the Mac version done before I get such a film.
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the current version of MIR is a stand-alone application - it awaits MIDI and outputs audio to an ASIO compatible soundcard.
however you can feed MIDI over network (MoL, LoopBe, ect) and route back audio eg. over ADAT
christian
and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds. -
Wouldn´t it be a nice idea to pimp up the Panning tool of the Vienna Suite with a little bit of MIRish features ?
Let´s say basic Left Right function + 2 impulse response streams (one near the instrument, the other one from the back or at a greater distance) ?
Not too complex, so it can work on average computers without the cray-like system requirements :)
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@Dietz said:
One of the Beta testers had MIR running and working on Bootcamp and reported ok-ish results. (Ron, would you please recapitulate your findings ...? TIA!)
Dietz, my pleasure:
Folks, one of my test systems was an early 2008 Mac Pro octocore 3.2 ghz with 32 gigs of ram, running Windows 7 and an RME Fireface 800, cubase 5.0.1 is running on the same computer. This system is certainly no slouch, but is a generation old.
My findings were as follows:
Buffer 128 is not really a viable option for more than a hanful of instruments. At buffer 512, I can run roughly 15-18 instruments at approximately 75% cpu consumption before clicks and pops begin (all perf-legato patches for these testing purposes). I can basically double that at 1024. Buffer set at x2. Keep in mind, however, that at 1024 w/ x2 buffer, there is some latencty. It's actually a fairly viable MIR solution for smallish-medium orchestrations, but don't expect to mockup Mahler 😉. Also, MIR's buffer should be set at x2 or above.
If someone were planning to use this kind of rig for MIR, I would definitely recommend having the Sequencer on another computer.
I'm happy to answer any questions about this kind of setup.
Best,
-Ron
Ron, On my Mac Intel Xeon, I made a partition of about 150 GB to install Windows 7, so a dual system. I then installed MIR on the PC partition. The problem I have now is to bridge the midi using [i]MIDIoverLAN[/i] from my Mac to Windows, I currently use Logic Pro, but how do I get from there to MIR? What should the configurations be? This is not very conventional way of doing it and MIR being new and all but if anybody knows about this I'd appreciate some help. Thanks!
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Ron, On my Mac Intel Xeon, I made a partition of about 150 GB to install Windows 7, so a dual system. I then installed MIR on the PC partition. The problem I have now is to bridge the midi using MIDIoverLAN from my Mac to Windows, I currently use Logic Pro, but how do I get from there to MIR? What should the configurations be? This is not very conventional way of doing it and MIR being new and all but if anybody knows about this I'd appreciate some help. Thanks!
Hi Guy,
On my setup, I used cubase within windows (the windows version of cubase). It's not possible to run logic on the mac partition and MIR on the windows partition at the same time. Unfortunately, I don't think logic is available for windows, so you'll probably have to have a sequencer that works in windows. Then you'll be able to run the sequencer and MIR off of your windows partition.
I hope that helps.
Best,
-Ron
