Hi,

i am really curious to listen to vsl samples through what seems to be a great new reverb.

regards

Laurent

Hello

Sorry but I believe that the upper example is a bad one for testing a reverb.

With long sustained string sounds of a big size ensemble you can't really make out the roomquality of a reverb.

Even if I listen to the dry original I recognize some room components.

What we need is a complex mix: Staccatos* with the string orchestra and the wood winds, brass with blaring horns or fanafare trumpets, a big organ at the back of the concert hall, percussion instruments somewhere in the room and a piccolo as a soloist just in front of us for example.

Then let's see whether the bricasti solves this situation brilliantly or not.

Then let's see how the bricasti manages the different depths, the transparency.

Then let's see whether it can produce an "airy" and warm room. 

Then let's compare it with other reverbs. 

By the way: If you want to produce a finalmix "at one sitting" with several stage depths you need to have

more than one bricasti... or am I wrong?   

Beat 

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*you can "listen to the room" between the staccatos. 

@jammusique_7634 said:

On the Gearslutz forum the mixer of the recent Dark Knight soundtrack used 6 Bricasti's for the mix...

I too I'm shopping for reverbs but since good hardwear units like Briscali are out of my reach i had to look at plungins instead. It took me a while but i think i finally found something promising. It's a hybrid between IR and algo and the result sounds very natural to my ears.

You can do a sort of a/b comparison between Briscali and REFLECT using the same file if you go at the link Beat provided earlier. Download the ''string Boston hall b'' Here:

And then go on the following link and download the ''Boston hall'' file and tell me what you think?

http://www.virsyn.de/en/E_Products/E_REFLECT/e_reflect.html

Personally, i think it sounds very good for a EU 167 plugin. But I'll admit i have no engineering talent or experience so i really don't know what I'm doing. Which is why i would like your opinion on this.

I really liked the reverb from ArtsAcoustic as well but for different reasons.

I bit more obvious as a reverb but very useful I'm sure. VERY well dome little pluging if you ask me.

edited: I made a mistake. The price is in EU.

Note that it's not the same mp3 quality.

Reflect sounds nice. I've also been thinking about a PCM96 or Bricasti, but you could buy a new Mac Pro for that kind of money. Still, one day I might go for it.

Thanks Synthetic.

 I've read that v.1.4 has some new algorithm to help with stage positioning so that's a plus. 1.4 is also VST3 compatible so it can do surround. I don't need this but i thought I'd mention it.

 But what bugs me about this reverb is that it comes with a dongle and you need to pay a second time(20% off) if you want to install it on a second computer. It's not gonna prevent me from buying it but i don't like it.

 Anyone else did the a/b comparison with Briscati? 

Looks like somebody already made IRs of the Bricast. And it sounds pretty good to me.

edited: I've deleted the link i posted before. I'm not sure about this product at al after all.

I'm not too impressed by these IRs made by "Studiodevices."  They really don't compare to the real Bricasti, which sounds incredible.  Furthermore, it's a little sketchy and in very poor taste to copy the real Bricasti so unabashedly.  Not only do they completely rip off the case design, but they also call it "Bree Casedy?"...come on.  

@Another User said:

BTW, you're probably one of those who uses Altiverb right? They sampled a whole Lexicon unit so how is that different?

Yes, Altiverb is one of the options I turn to for reverb.  I don't have a problem with the sampling of Lexicon or other hardware units (Bricasti included) as long as it's legal.  I honestly don't know whether it is or isn't legal, but I assume that a company as reputable as Audioease would have explored this and found it to be legal to make the IRs they have included.  My problem with "Bree Casedy" is not necessarily that they've sampled the unit (again, as long as it's legal).  My problem is that that they're advertising and pushing their product by relying on brand confusion and I find that to be in poor taste.  The picture they have on their site is a clear rip-off of the face design of the Bricasti and their name "Bree Casedy" is a clear rip-off as well.  I happen to know that the developers of the Bricasti were not aware of "Bree Casedy" until after its release when someone brought it to their attention on another forum.

@jammusique_7634 said:

[...] taking an IR of a unit only reflects a small part of what that unit can do, 20-50% IMO. [...]

I've deleted the link because frankly I'm not sure about thsi pruduct anymore. I think it might be a complet fraud. I'm not goig to explain why but i just don't want to be responsible for advertising this product. I'll come bach if i find more info but for now i think people should be careful. 

@Anonymous Joe said:

I've deleted the link because frankly I'm not sure about thsi pruduct anymore. I think it might be a complet fraud. I'm not goig to explain why but i just don't want to be responsible for advertising this product. I'll come bach if i find more info but for now i think people should be careful. 

Hi Dietz,[:)]

Actually i read your post and made note of it but that's not why i deleted it. The thing is i have good reasons to believe these impulses may not come from big expensive reverb as advertised.  Just before i ordered, i loaded a free donation ware just to make sure... And i came way too close to the sound of that plugin and I'm not even good at this. The tail sounded identical at times. Now as i said, I'm really not an engineer so i will not go further just to make sure i don't offend anyone but if i had to chose I'd say these impulses comes from that donation ware.  A good donation ware that i like BTW. [;)]

Well I always wondered about that myself. I'm not sure what you were comparing the Bree-Casedy to, but it never sounded anything like our M7. The only similarity was the basic envelope of decay, (close). I did contact them and they seemed very nice, I did not challenge them, but personally, I suspected that they were not derived from the M7.

It is typical though of plugin convolution reverbs to capture just the decay envelope and little of the character of the reverb. This is because they must take dramatic short cuts to get them to run on an Intel platform. If you have ever heard the Sony 777 which performs convolution without the short cuts, you will know what I mean. So it is hard to be definitive.

Your discovery is very interesting to me however, I will try to duplicate it myself. I would love to put a good set of M7 IRs in the public domain, because I do think that they can be useful, and we must always be mindful that todays user looking for inexpensive reverb solutions may someday decide that they would like a more expensive solution if by good fortune they are successful in their craft.

-Casey