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  • VE3: standalone and server instances & hardware question

    I'm planning on setting up a new external slave with around 32Gb RAM for VI and have some questions before acquiring the hardware:

    1. Is it possible to have let's say 6 standalone instances of VE3 permanently loaded on the slave and then add some host controlled instances on a per cue basis?

    2. When opening a VE3 instance (on the slave) via my master DAW (Logic)  - where is its configuration (instruments loaded etc) saved? Will it be part of the Logic song, or will I have to load a setup on the slave once Logic has opened that instance?

    3. OS: Is Windows Vista 64 or Mac OS Leopard best for this slave?

    4. Hardware: Where in the UK could I get a configured 32Gb RAM system? Or should I just get a Mac Pro, and possibly run Vista on it?

    Sorry, lots of questions....

    Dom


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    1) the *permantly loaded* feature is on our to-do list, but not yet implemented

    2) the config is saved within your project file, though custom matrices need to be saved too

    3) the windows platform is better currently, because VE3 is true 64bit for XP/VISTA already

    4) i don't want to advertise for UK computer shops here, maybe you should contact a VSL authorized dealer

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    Christian, thanks for the answers. 

    @cm said:

    1) the *permantly loaded* feature is on our to-do list, but not yet implemented

     

    So, do standalone VE3 instances actually exist separately , or are the always controlled through the 'server' which is controlled through the plugin window in the DAW? 

    And one more question - Can you always route VE3 audio output to hardware outputs (eg lightpipe) or are the always audio over LAN? 


  • whereas the Vienna Ensemble Service does everything over LAN, the stand-alone receives midi and outputs audio seperately and routable.

    seperate processes allocate seperate memory ... i just had to find out one needs to create a copy of Vienna Ensemble (stand-alone) to launch a seperate process ... or two ... or three ....

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Is the standalone also VE3 (or is that VE2)? And: would it not be possible to keep instruments permanently loaded in the standalone instances, or will be VE Service automatically purge those too when the VE Service Instances are closed? 


  • the stand-alone players for both (VE2 & VE3) of course keep the samples loaded - the VE3 service currently does not.

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Dom, AFAIK there are no audio PC specialists in the UK selling 16 or 32Gb machines. That's why I'm just about to build my own. I would do it sooner, but I have a few 8GB machines to sort out first for friends. [:(]

    DG

  • does that mean turnkey (UK) is just an identical name? at least they are selling some carillon ...

     

    i for myself prefer to design computers individually but about 1 year ago i found a few UK based computer stores offering pre-configured workstation and server systems ... (strange enough: they don't sell to continental europe)

    you might also look at the newer DELL workstations (intel 5400 family)

     

    hmmm ... looking at the amount of UK based VSL users it seems there would be some demand for such a service ...

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:

    does that mean turnkey (UK) is just an identical name? at least they are selling some carillon ...

    Carillon have only ever sold single CPU machines, AFAIK.

    In any case Turnkey has gone into liquidation, so should be removed from the discussion. [:(]

    DG


  • thanks for mentioning that ...


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • As I already have two Carillon PCs I spoke to them 3 days ago and they said they're keen to move into 64bit systems and will try and put together a 32GB RAM machine for me. Good to know that Turnkey are going bankupt though - didn't know that - not a great loss for London though...

    I wish there were more preconfiured PC quiet systems around though. - I'm not confident with choosing mothersboards and fans etc. Us Mac users are spoilt; the most technical challenge may be opening the disc tray, or perhaps plugging in a USB lead....


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    @Dom said:

    As I already have two Carillon PCs I spoke to them 3 days ago and they said they're keen to move into 64bit systems and will try and put together a 32GB RAM machine for me. Good to know that Turnkey are going bankupt though - didn't know that - not a great loss for London though...

    I wish there were more preconfiured PC quiet systems around though. - I'm not confident with choosing mothersboards and fans etc. Us Mac users are spoilt; the most technical challenge may be opening the disc tray, or perhaps plugging in a USB lead....

    Dom, it seems to make sense for you to get a Mac Pro, and run it in XP64 until the 64bit version of VE is ready. I have 5 carillon PCs, but they have always been comparatively slow and behind current PC technology, and in your situation the guys at Carillon probably know about as much as you do about building a 32GB system. [8-|]

    DG

  • huhuhhh - now this doesn't sound too encouraging .... well, i'm trying to reach their website since an hour ... without success ... somewhere near london harbour seems to be a decent knot in some line ....

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:

    well, i'm trying to reach their website since an hour ... without success ...

     

    yes indeed. but they're still answering the phone though... 


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    @DG said:

    Dom, it seems to make sense for you to get a Mac Pro, and run it in XP64 until the 64bit version of VE is ready.

     

    you mean a 64bit Mac OS version I presume.

    Anyway, a Mac Pro may well be a good idea. I would prefer XP64 - but VSL would prefer Vista?


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    @DG said:

    Dom, it seems to make sense for you to get a Mac Pro, and run it in XP64 until the 64bit version of VE is ready.

     

    you mean a 64bit Mac OS version I presume.

    Anyway, a Mac Pro may well be a good idea. I would prefer XP64 - but VSL would prefer Vista?

    Yes, sorry I meant a Mac 64bit version.

    I have been running VE2 in XP64 for almost a year now with no problems.

    DG