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  • creating 1st and 2nd violin sections

    Hi, I have SE, standard & extended, & standard plus libraries. Can anyone explain which string sections should I use to created two different string sections(1st & 2nd string sections)? Since there are only a few articulations in the appasionata strings, I'd rather like to exclude these ensembles.


  • [8o|] Oddly enough, I once collected all thread links about this topic in the old forums, but, you may have guessed it, none of the link is working anymore... simply useless to invest time in such a thing again, so I hope you find some topics about it:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/16317/113654.aspx#113654 

    Other than that some of the really often discussed question are:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/6879/50576.aspx#50576 

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/16811.aspx?PageIndex=1 

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/16098.aspx?PageIndex=1 

    and like two dozens more...

    In short: Use panning and different reverb for to sections with the normal violin ensemble patch. If you want play unison but not using Appassionata (why not?) - combine different patches like the alternate short samples or sustain and legato patches and so on.

    All the best,

    PolarBear 


  • Hose,

    I've found that with App strings, I tend to use the normal Violin Sustain patches (or legato patches) for 1st violins, and I use the Cresc/Decrescendo patches (set to decrescendo) for the 2nd violins. This is mostly when I'm doing a flowing melodic lead line. Don't know if those patches are in SE. But you'll find that you'll use whatever works. And it doesn't really correspond to reality most of the time. Polar Bear's suggestions about panning and reverb are good to separte the second v. from the first.

    What I mean by correspond to reality is that, for a few bars you may use the same patch (i.e. the violins patch) with first violins and second violins playing in differnet octaves -- from the same patch. Then two bars later, you switch because your violins have to play more detache passages, so you may be using a normal violin patch for first violins and a App violin detache patch for the seconds, or vice versa.

    Most of the time, a lead legato passage will benefit from mixing in the App strings, or having the Apps play it alone. Sometimes, also, mixing in a flute very, very, very faintly in the violin line really does some magic things. You don't have to have this flute written in your score necessarily. It's just to get a better (if less purely technically correct) tone.

    Good luck.

    Mahlon


  • My point of view is that you all working with Perfection! The much more interesting thing is Reality! The difference between 1st and 2nd violon is Human Being... Not more!

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    @Migot said:

    My point of view is that you all working with Perfection! The much more interesting thing is Reality! The difference between 1st and 2nd violon is Human Being... Not more!
    totally agree.. and in this case it is the human being sitting behind the computer arranging a piece 😉 "make-belief" is the word(s)