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  • Convolution IR products

    HolgmeisterH
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    I started looking around for a good convolution.
    I came across Pristine Space at voxengo.com. I used it with my new "christmas loot" english horn and glass & stone.
    The result , after a few tweaking, gaved me goosebumps.
    Am I mistaken, or is this really high class convolution? Given the price, I rather would rank it starting level, but according to my ears, it is superb.
    I am new to this IR-World, has someone done a comparison to the high end like altiverb etc?
    Too old for Rock n Roll. Too young for 9th symphonies. Wagner Lover, IRCAM Alumni. Double Bass player starting in low Es. I am where noise is music.
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    Well, Voxengo stuff is not starting level, it is pretty good.

    I think altiverb is a touch better, and so is W2/W5 from Wizoo IMO. But Voxengo is a great bargain.
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    Voxengo PS is absolutely great, I prefer it over Waves IR1.
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    @Peter Roos said:

    Voxengo PS is absolutely great, I prefer it over Waves IR1.


    How do these compare to GigaPulse?
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    They all have different impulse files, so you can only compare them to GigaPulse by importing them into Giga - which at least in the case of Altiverb you're not allowed to do (and rightly so).
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    @Nick Batzdorf said:

    They all have different impulse files, so you can only compare them to GigaPulse by importing them into Giga - which at least in the case of Altiverb you're not allowed to do (and rightly so).
    Well is that not true of the other verbs compared in this thread?
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    Also, whilst we wait for MIR. How does SIR compare to Voxengo ( I have lot of their plugs - best value on the market). Just don't want to buy a plug that will be replaced by MIR in just a few months.


    Rob
  • DietzD
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    DietzD
    I think it is save to say that the MIR is not necessarily going to replace one of the "general purpose" convoluters. Our engine has to rely on its own sets of IRs by principle, so conventional, "simple" impulse responses make no sense with it.
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Another User said:

    Well is that not true of the other verbs compared in this thread?


    I'm not sure if they all have the same policy about using their impulses, but yes, it's probably true.

    The point is that comparing convolution reverbs without regard to the impulse files is like asking which bottle would be better with dinner - and not knowing whether they contain wine, orange juice, or urine.
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    @Nick Batzdorf said:

    [...] The point is that comparing convolution reverbs without regard to the impulse files is like asking which bottle would be better with dinner - and not knowing whether they contain wine, orange juice, or urine.

    Thanks for this comparison, Nick! [:D]
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    @Nick Batzdorf said:


    The point is that comparing convolution reverbs without regard to the impulse files is like asking which bottle would be better with dinner - and not knowing whether they contain wine, orange juice, or --snip YACC endsnip --.


    Very true. This is the point where I am stuck right now (not on the YACC thing [:D] ). Most of the "Free Stuff" on the market seems to be re-sample of High end and not so High End Hardware like Lexington etc and some local community rooms.

    I am looking for real concert halls and opera houses that are professional sampled. ( I.e. Not like popping a balloon on an butt ugly sound stage in a nowhere studio.).

    Does anyone has recommendation where to look? I started at noisevault.com, but most of the links are pointing to the "popping balloon" category.
    And Wizoo, Altiverb and Wave seems to have their own formats or require their products. And from a legal standpoint, their IR files cannot be used somewhere else, I guess.

    thx hs

    (Maybe Dietz can share one of the thousands IRs from the halls with me, that he has sampled on his faboulus IR scooter) [:)] PPS: I don't mind the exact position btw
    Too old for Rock n Roll. Too young for 9th symphonies. Wagner Lover, IRCAM Alumni. Double Bass player starting in low Es. I am where noise is music.
  • HolgmeisterH
    HolgmeisterH
    I forgot one cool thing:
    On echochamber.ch, there is a very good collection of HW IR's.

    And the coolest: The IR from the very famous Quantec (glory eigthies, where the most exciting gear was real life ANALOG) with the Taj Mahal Setting in excellent quality.
    I could not resist and run EPIC HORN cresc through the monument.

    Factor: ULTRA [:D] cool. Not very playable, but imagine eight horns from Vienna in the Taj Mahal!
    Too old for Rock n Roll. Too young for 9th symphonies. Wagner Lover, IRCAM Alumni. Double Bass player starting in low Es. I am where noise is music.
  • DietzD
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    Sorry Holgmeister, to my experience the best IRs up to now are not available for free. They come form AudioEase, Waves (read: Angelo Farina and his crew), and Numerical Sound (although they are not "real" rooms, but idealized representations of them).

    There are several other people doing heavy research in this direction, too, but AFAIk there are not ready fo the market yet.

    HTH,
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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    I don't mind paying for the IR files, I was not looking for free stuff.
    But it seems there all IR files are depending on their software.
    It looks like I have to buy altiverb, if I want to get any professional IR.
    Is there no one who sells just the IRs ?
    Too old for Rock n Roll. Too young for 9th symphonies. Wagner Lover, IRCAM Alumni. Double Bass player starting in low Es. I am where noise is music.
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    Take a look at this:
    http://www.numericalsound.com/
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    I use altiverb I think it's the best especially for the money.