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  • NEW Ravel mockup w/ VSL samples and Gigapulse

    This mockup of Ravel’s “Little Ugly, Empress of the Pagodas” from the Mother Goose Suite is done using Opus 1, Horizon Solo Strings and Horizon French Oboe samples exclusively.

    http://www.vsl.co.at/english/demos/Classics/Maurice_Ravel/Mother_Goose_Suite_%2D_Little_ugly.htm">http://www.vsl.co.at/english/demos/Classics/Maurice_Ravel/Mother_Goose_Suite_%2D_Little_ugly.htm

    The mix was done using GS3’s new Gigapulse.

    I’m not sure I’m using Gigapulse to its best advantage yet, so any tips would be appreciated.

    I hope you enjoy this piece. Your reactions are most welcome!

    If anyone wants me to post the midi file or articulation list, just ask.

    Thanks for listening,
    Jay

  • Hi Jay,

    wonderful mockup. Could we use it in our demosection?
    It seems you have done the first published full orchestral demo with VSL & Giga Pulse. Congratulations! [:D]
    I recieved your PM, sorry I'm a little late with my replies at the moment.

    best
    Herb

  • Herb,

    I'd be honored if you'd use it in your demo section. [:D]

    --Jay

  • "If anyone wants me to post the midi file or articulation list, just ask."

    Jay-
    Well, I'm asking. Wonderfull mockup - truly excellent. I wish I could do this at even a fraction of your skill level.
    thanks,
    mvanbebber

  • Mvanbebber--

    You asked for it, you got it. [[;)]]

    Here's the midi file:

    **SORRY-- deleted to make room for new stuff. If you want it, send me a private message and I'll email you a copy**

    And here's the articulation list:

    Opus 1

    Piccolo:
    PFL_perf-leg_mf MONO
    PFL_stac_1+2 MONO

    Flute:
    FL1_perf-leg_p-f_2Lay-MOD MONO (**custom patch—see “Ma Mere L’Oye” thread for details)
    FL1_stac_1+2 MONO

    Clarinet:
    KLB_perf-leg_mp-f_2Lay-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    KL_stac_1+2 MONO
    KL_oV_fp MONO
    KL_oV_wA_3s MONO

    Bassoon:
    FA_perf-leg_p-f_2Lay-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    FA_stac_1+2 MONO
    FA_LV_sus MONO
    FA_oV_fp MONO

    Solo French Horn:
    HO_LV_sus+RS
    HO_oV_fp
    HO_perf-leg_p-mf_2Lay-MOD MONO
    HO_perf-leg_p-f_2Lay-MOD MONO

    Violins:
    VL-14L_mV_sus_4Lay-mod
    VL-14_pz
    VL-14L_mV_sus+RS
    VL-14L_tr-GS_2Lay-mod
    VL-14L_perf-leg_f_porta

    Violas
    VA-10L_mV_sus_4Lay-mod
    VA-10_pz
    VA-10L_mV_sus+RS
    VA-10L_tr-GS_2Lay-mod

    Cellos:
    VC-8L_mV_sus_4Lay-mod
    VC-8_pz
    VC-8L_mV_sus+RS
    VC-8L_tr-GS_2Lay-mod
    VC-8L_perf-leg_f_porta

    Double Basses:
    KB-6L_mV_sus_2Lay-mod
    KB-6_pz-sl

    Celesta:
    Celesta+RC

    Xylophone
    Xylophone+RC

    Glockenspiel
    Glockenspiel+RC

    Timpani
    Timpani_HA_all MONO

    Tamtam MONO

    Piati MONO

    Harp:
    HA_normal+RC
    HA_flageolette+RC



    Horizon Solo Strings

    Solo Violin:
    VI_perf-leg_p-f-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    VI_tr_GS
    VI_oV_sus+RS

    Solo Viola:
    VA_perf-leg_p-f-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    VA_tr_GS
    VA_oV_sus+RS

    Solo Cello:
    VC_perf-leg_p-f-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    VC_tr_GS
    VC_oV_sus+RS


    Horizon French Oboe

    Oboe:
    OB2_perf-leg_grace_p-f_2Lay-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    OB2_stac_1+2 MONO

    English horn:
    EH2_perf-leg_p-f_2Lay-MOD MONO (**custom patch)
    EH2_stac_1+2 MONO

  • Jay, this is great! I'm glad this is going on the demos since it deserves it big time! Along with your others like the Mompou pieces - this is truly an expert use of midi. When I hear something done this well it reminds me all over again of the musical revolution that we are living through right now. It is tremendously exciting to know that we have this level of musical expression right at our fingertips!

  • omg Gigapulse is simply amazing, as well as your demo !

  • Music from my favorite suite, played by my favorite orchestra! Great recording, also! Thumbs up! [:D]

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    @JBacal said:

    This mockup of Ravel’s “Little Ugly, Empress of the Pagodas” from the Mother Goose Suite is done using Opus 1, Horizon Solo Strings and Horizon French Oboe samples exclusively.

    www.Members.aol.com/jbacal/music/little_ugly.mp3

    The mix was done using GS3’s new Gigapulse.

    I’m not sure I’m using Gigapulse to its best advantage yet, so any tips would be appreciated.

    I hope you enjoy this piece. Your reactions are most welcome!

    If anyone wants me to post the midi file or articulation list, just ask.

    Thanks for listening,
    Jay


    Sounds very nice to me [:D] Never heard this piece of music before either.
    So is gigastudio 3 worth getting? I was holding off until some feedback arrived from users.

  • Excellent.

  • Thanks for the encouraging words everyone!


    James--

    I think GS3 is worth getting. Unfortunately, it's not as stable as I'd like on my computer. It's crashed numerous times in the first few days of use. BUT it does load 30% more instruments and achieves higher polyphony before choking my system than GS2.5.

    Gigapulse is impressive, but you really need a fast computer (mine is only a P4 1.4 GHz) if you wanna run more than one instance at a time.

    Also the added dimensions will be a BIG plus as soon as new articulation files become available for the VSL library of samples. We're talking about playing modwheel crossfade legato instruments with 3 or more velocity layers without even breaking a sweat!

    So I give GS3 a qualified thumbs up.

    Best,
    Jay

  • I like that idea of Peter Roos - "my favorite orchestra." The fact is that VSL is a particular and very fine orchestra. It just performs in a very unusual way... and these performances depend very much on the "conductor."

    Maestro Jay Bacall in this case has done an excellent job of whipping these players into shape. (Though I've heard he was very cruel to the clarinet player, calling him names when he missed a couple notes then making him stand up in front of everybody to play it right. Naturally this upset the other woodwind players, though the brass of course thought it was funny and the string players were generally bored since they were waiting for some Mozart. But Maestro Bacall's approach ultimately paid off and the orchestra turned in an excellent performance.)

  • Impressive work. One of the most carefully balanced virtual orchestrations I've heard up to now. Congratulations.

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • This is amazing! Congratulations!

    Tell us something about Gigapuls, please. Did you use impulse responses from Giga or own ones? How many instances?

    Thanks for posting this!
    Bests,
    - Mathis

  • Hi Mathis,

    I used a total of 4 instances of Gigapulse (but my P4 1.4Ghz only runs 1 instance at a time before crashing). I used the Large Hall IR that comes with GS3. I used a different setting for the 4 main sections of the orchestra(Strings, Woodwinds, Brass and Percussion). I used 100%wet/dry mix for all 4 sections, but varied the placement of the sources and the perspective for each. I used close proximity seating for Strings, Woodwinds and far proximity for Brass and Percussion.

    As I said before, I'm not certain this is the best way to use Gigapulse. So if any of you can share your own thoughts and techniques, I'd appreciate it.

    --Jay

  • Just realized that when I make a midi file in Sonar, it ignores the transpositions. Please transpose the following instruments to get the file to sound properly:

    English Horn -7
    Clarinet -3
    Horn -7
    Viola 2
    Double Bass -12

    Sorry for any confusion,
    Jay

  • Hi, a fantastic piece - well done.

    I'm interested, was this entire piece played on a single PC, or multiple ones? I have imported your midi file into Cubase and am experimenting with using HAL3 for playback - so far I'm up to five instances of HALion [[:|]]

    Also, I cannot find two of the clarinet patches in my Pro Edition KL_oV_fp and KL_oV_wA_3s - what are they if you don't mind me asking.

    Many thanks


    Tim

  • KLB_oV_fp
    is included in: 06 KLB_DYNAMIC-SPECIAL.gig

    KLB_oV_wA_3s
    is included in: 02 KLB_LONG-NOTES.gig

    best
    Herb

  • Thsnks Herb - great memory you've got [:D]

  • Tim--

    The piece was done on 1 computer (P4 1.4 Ghz) with 768 MB of ram. Because of my ram and cpu limitations I had to record the piece dry in roughly 4 sections (Strings, Woodwinds, Brass and Percussion) using Sonar 3. I then put each of the 4 sections (one section at a time) though a different setting of Gigapulse and recorded the wet versions using Sonar 3. Then I mixed (tweaked) the 4 wet tracks to make the final file.

    Life (well, orchestral mockups anyway!) would be much easier with more, bigger and faster computers, but a lot can be done with very little. You just have to be willing to put up with some tedious and time consuming steps.


    --Jay