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    @Ramu said:

    What do you think?

    Maybe I'm not seeing the obvious, but what is the "SP" you refer to?

    /Mattias

    Sorry I meant windows Xp
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    Ah. There are two different versions of XP, one 32-bit and one 64-bit. The problem with the 64-bit version is that you have to have driver and software support to really gain anything. Currently the only sequencer with a released x64 version is Sonar AFAIK. 32-bit apps works fine in Win64 too, but you still have to make sure 64-bit drivers are there.

    The process limitation of 2GB for 32-bit apps can be lifted to 3GB using a configuration change on your system if needed. You can even lift it to 4GB if you run your 32-bit apps on Win64. With your 6GB machine this would definitely be the case and you still have 2GB free for operating system needs. Check the sticky "Memory configuration and VI..." in the Vienna Instruments forum for more information regarding this type of configuration.

    If you decide to do the Win64 thing, be aware that you're in the frontline of the development and that you're wearing the guinea-pig dress...

    /Mattias
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    @PaulR said:

    Partly Mattias, yes. [[;)]]

    Thank you. [:)]

    /Mattias
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    @Mattias Henningson said:

    If you decide to do the Win64 thing, be aware that you're in the frontline of the development and that you're wearing the guinea-pig dress...

    /Mattias


    Ok! I might wait then [;)]

    thx for your answer Mattias
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    @vibrato said:


    ...However, ultimately I am more comfortable with Windows...


    Well that's as good a reason as any... All the best for your music projects. I just wouldn't hold your breath waiting for the Vista announcement, though. You could be waiting quite a long time... [*-)]
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    @PaulR said:

    As to what Daryl says about Macs - try putting the Mac OS on a PC and see what happens.

    Not to ignite the flame once more, but NEXT............! [:D]

    DG
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    @Another User said:

    I would also advise that if you get a Mac - use and learn Logic. You get a mass of things with Logic like Space Designer, Sculptor, loads of instruments that are very good and used all the time in soundtracks, loads of effects and mastering tools like Multicompressor, great channel EQ and so on. And you can load up 16 gigs of ram if you want to.

    The only thing worth keeping on my crappo PC is probably the ram. You can wear the rest of it as a hat AFAIC. It's shite.


    Aren't Macs supposed to be more stable and reliable than Windows?
    I have used Windows 98, NT, 2000 and now XP, and all it does is crash for the silliest of reasons. I mean: video-editing isn't as hard on the PC anymore as it was during the days of 98 and NT, but it hardly runs any better.
    (The downside on Mac is the unfamiliarity and the lack of software. Altough keeping a PC aside might be an idea)

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    Paul, could you direct me to the logic site, please? I thought it was www.logic.com but obvisously not as I got a site about vacations or something.
    Thanks!
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    @weslldeckers said:

    Aren't Macs supposed to be more stable and reliable than Windows?

    Welcome to the world of urban legends... [6]

    /Mattias
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    @weslldeckers said:

    Aren't Macs supposed to be more stable and reliable than Windows?
    I have used Windows 98, NT, 2000 and now XP, and all it does is crash for the silliest of reasons. I mean: video-editing isn't as hard on the PC anymore as it was during the days of 98 and NT, but it hardly runs any better.
    (The downside on Mac is the unfamiliarity and the lack of software. Altough keeping a PC aside might be an idea)

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    Paul, could you direct me to the logic site, please? I thought it was www.logic.com but obvisously not as I got a site about vacations or something.
    Thanks!


    http://www.apple.com/logicpro/

    You may wish to change it to the country of your choice
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    Jamriding, thanks!
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    I got a musical supply catalog the other day, sent in the mail and for the first time I noticed that nuendo's cost is 2000 dollars, thats twice the cost of logic. This is new.
    I would suggest to contact beat kaufman and get his view, if you're used to PC. Beat used to use logic in the pc platform, but switched to nuendo on pc ,I think !!
    He's producing excelent music. But one has to mention that when you arrive in hollywood and investigate what everyone's using , or the majority , its always suggests MAC & logic, or DP. Thats what works for the movie industry. Thats not to say that in hollywood no one is using PC, But to be curious I wounder how many are using pc's and in the movie industry ? thats the question ? Producing VSL music with a pc is very capable, Herb uses it I think ? I could be wrong. But its what you are aimed towards. You mentioned in your university mac's are being used, there is a reason Mac's are being used for scoring. Its because the motion picture industry are using it. They work hand in hand with cilicon valley to produce trouble free software, if it wasn't for the movie industry we would be cursing at all the music software and hardware. On the other side of the coin, there are exceptions,
    I could be wrong here, because you do see nuendo with multiple pro tools studio's are being used to score with , how many in that venue, I couldn't say, But the bill to set up those type of studios is undoubtedly in the corporation range. I'm using a mac becuase its the cheapest i found to producing an all around musical product. In the east coast of the U.S., the pc is marketed from texas to east coast, years back no one heard of mac systems for music in the east coast, out west years back it was the opposit, you got laughed at if you used a pc.

    Also the mac OS is virus free, Thats stability, Headache free. my nephew sells PC's and his office model keeps a virus in it which he cannot remove, but he is capable of building an enormous towers for video purposes. His market is mostly churches driven for video.

    I think i would check with beat kaufman as to how he is aimed towards.

    The age factor in switching from platform to platform is an issue here also.
    I could not switch programs or platform at my age today. So if you are young and full of energy to spend, now is the time to decide exactly what you want to use for your later years ! And if you are in one platform and one program then music flows out of you. As apposed to having to hagle with differen programs and different key commands, different software approaches, a bit awkward for creating music. but not awkward for scoring in cymetry. If you want to be john williams , he is focused towards scoring by hand and orchestral conducting. Notation driven. If you score low budget films then its hardware / software. And or. ...........

    Thats my experience with both platforms. But its not to say I'm right either.

    Hope that helps. Good luck !!
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    [6] to hell with PC and macs!! they both suck. my linux box has crashed a total of zero times in the last nine months since i had it.